Originally posted by Arbitrageur
I don't know what, if anything fell in Kecksburg, and therefore I'm unable to rule out anything, including an ET craft. In terms of looking at likelihoods, it does seem to make sense to look for common explanations first, but that doesn't mean the common explanations are always right.
As for your incredulity about what you hear being the truth, I agree that when the military lied to us for 50 years about Roswell being a weather balloon, and admitted they lied, it's hard to believe anything the military says.
You mean when they changed their first lie, the so called weather balloon story, into a second lie, the so called secret Mogul balloon story?
Come on, you also must know by now that regarding the UFO/ET matter the military never ever tells the truth, so far.
You can read more about government agencies UFO Lies here.
Government UFO Lies An Illustrated Lecture MUFON 2005 by Stanton T. Friedman May 2005
www.v-j-enterprises.com...
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
But I also find it prudent to apply some skepticism about eyewitness testimony made years after the fact. Even eyewitness testimony a few minutes or hours after something happens is full of errors in observation and accuracy, but the longer after the event the testimony is, the greater the errors become, and that's true even when the eyewitness isn't lying.
The military and government agencies are masters in hiding the truth by using disinformation, intimidating and discrediting the witnesses as good as possible, so therefore it becomes really difficult to know what is true or not.
Therefore where those photographs so important, because they could proof the real identity of the object, but see how some emissary government agencies handled that problem and what they normally doin cases like this .
John Murphy's Object in the Woods a reporter and news director for the local radio station WHJB, John Murphy, arrived on the scene of the event before authorities had arrived, in response to several calls to the station from alarmed citizens. He took several photographs and conducted interviews with witnesses.
His former wife Bonnie Milslagle later reported that all but one roll of the film were confiscated by military personnel.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Then I have a question about that supposedly crashed super-secret Venus capsule.
Suppose for one moment that it was some sort of super-secret Soviet Venus capsule that also came down that day, do you think it is really possible that when it came down from out space then, force itself true the atmosphere and smashed with great force into the ground of those woods it really could be despite it had to sustain an immense heat still could be so undamaged that any guy from the street could still recognize it as some sort of Russian super-secret Soviet Venus capsule with even intact outside Russian markings on it?
Here is my answer to your question
Look at this photograph of a space capsule which crashed to Earth, and tell me if you think it's still recognizable:
www.jpl.nasa.gov...
It's still recognizable to me even with the damage it incurred from hitting hard ground. Now look at the terrain in Kecksburg, with the possibility of leaves to cushion the impact, etc, the space capsule could have sustained even less damage than this one, right? Is that so hard to believe? (If it was a space capsule that is, I'm not sure if it was).
I must admit that that is interesting to see, but you must not forget the following.
Following separation, the SRC continued on a ballistic trajectory to its entry inter¬face with the Earth’s atmosphere. Entry occurred on time and at the nominal location to support a landing as designed in the UTTR.
Operation of the space¬craft appeared nominal until the expected deployment of the drogue parachute at approximately 108,000 ft (33 km) altitude. No drogue or parachute was observed, and the SRC impacted the desert floor at 9:58:52 MDT.
www.nasa.gov...
So, it was besides the fact that the parachutes don’t opened, a very well controlled entry, and its heat shield did work perfectly well, so that satellite didn’t burnt so much up as it would happen with an unexpected and therefore uncontrolled incoming satellite in my opinion.
But I am certainly no specialist in that kind of stuff.
[edit on 16/11/09 by spacevisitor]


I really am having a pretty good laugh at the prospect of leaves cushioning the landing of an object entering earth's
atmosphere. 
