I did not call these people idiots- I was merely saying that if I said that in a thread, in another post if that was trolling or not. I
wanted to be sure that name calling was trolling... but I could disagree with the theory without calling them idiots. The whole point of this thread
is to ask what trolling is. If you look at my posts my intent in this thread is not to troll. I don't know exactly where you got that idea.
You're looking too closely between the lines. I was just asking what constitutes trolling on ATS... and I was asking if you say those things those
things are trolling... but if you say something else... like you disagree with the theory and you don't say they're idiots that's not trolling.
Well, in all honesty you can never be sure of what another's intentions are, as someone else said earlier.
That being said, I always have considered "trolling" to be just a term that people who are pissed at another member use to label the person that
they are having a disagreement with.
Many times I feel that they use it as a personal attack just because they see things differently.
I really do understand what you are saying, which is why I took the time to read the thread. I was just upset that you took the opportunity to get
some jabs in there at people that you didn't agree with. So, true to form, I called you a troll.
See how it works?
In the long run, I think that if you don't want to be called a troll, you should fill a post with what seems like a reasonable response and in the
end makes your point that you feel that the person is an idiot.
I think others have nailed it though. Just try to explain why you feel a certain way.
I shouldn't be saying this at all really, because I know for a fact that I have violated this very rule more times than I care to think about.
Especially in the political forums. I have to tell myself often to stay away from those topics all together. Because I can flat out lose it in there.
We can't take credit for this one, blogger and Internet entrepreneur Jason Calacanis coined the term "Internet Asperger's Syndrome" to describe
the utter loss of all social rules and empathy that seems to hit some people for no other reason than that they happen to be communicating via
keyboard and monitor at the time.
We don't need to retell all of the horror stories. A kid commits suicide on webcam while the trolls cheer him on, Anonymous mocks a suicide victim,
some kids fire a baby out of a giant slingshot for a YouTube video (we're not sure if that last one actually happened but it's really just a matter
Normal kids, good grades, no criminal records... but get them in a chat room and suddenly it reads like the transcript to a Charles Manson parole
In Real Life it's Called...
This rarely diagnosed but often claimed disorder is a mild form of Autism that comes with what seems to be a biological inability to show empathy for
other human beings, as well as (and maybe stemming from) an inability to recognize nonverbal cues. They continually do weird, upsetting things because
they don't know it's upsetting you. That part of their brain is broken.
People cringe when they hear this term because they know that a large number of the teenagers claiming Asperger's are, in fact, merely dicks.
So Why Does it Happen on the Internet?
Calacanis figured out that people who do all of their communicating online wind up mimicking Asperger's behaviors because they are imposing the same
disadvantages on themselves. In both cases, when the ability to see nonverbal responses and facial expressions goes away, so does empathy. Soon the
thing you're communicating with isn't a person, they're just a bunch of words on a screen. A bunch of words that the little bastard didn't even
bother to spellcheck.
In fact, I think that is the best yet.
I work with a guy who frequents chatrooms and discussion forums and he is the textbook definition of a troll. He makes a point to create discussions
that he doesn't even agree with just because he knows he will generate negative emotions in the people he is baiting into an argument. He finds it
I have tried to get him to engage this community because I know he doesn't have the grey-matter to get to half of the people here in a negative way.
In fact, he would likely be ridiculed to the point that he abandoned the site within a few weeks.
Anyhow, personally the guy is awesome. Intelligent enough and extremely witty, the guy shows great empathy for others in "real life"... yet when you
get him on the internet, he becomes a raging ass. The only other time you will see him act like this is when he becomes staggering drunk.
Come on Slayer, I didn't give you permission to post my pic.
To the OP
Are you weary of being tagged as a troll? Based on the time you been here, I would say trolling shouldn't be such an issue for you.
I personally think the Mods do a pretty good job of finding the trolls. I say if you contribute something related to the thread and remain courteous/
respectful at all times, the mods pretty much leave you alone.
SLAYER69, I always laugh hard as Hell at that particular picture.
To the original poster, I said I considered it this thread trolling, not that I am necessarily correct.
One thing you as well as everyone else needs to remember, that the truth is subjective to a persons perspective, experiences in life, and as well how
they contribute to the overall community.
My thoughts on this thread being trolling, again, I could be incorrect, are the fact that it takes from people actually figuring out a conspiracy
theory, actually having a conversation about J.F.K. and Lee Harvey Oswald, and about the state of the world in general, because this thread to me
distracts me from my usual mode of contribution within the online community that is within the bounds of ATS.
If that makes sense, it is my particular position and opinion, I am sure some will agree and some will disagree, and this is where you and I will come
to terms and agree to disagree.
My intent was not suggestive of you having any mischievous intent, nor misdirection, nor that you are an Agent Provocateur, it was merely stating
through use of comedy, that I believe I am taken off task of solving what I see as Government crimes, conspiracies, and cover-ups.
I am sure this thread however, will help the newer ATS members, in determining for themselves, what a troll is considered from the entire ATS
And for that, I thank you for posting it, whether I agree with it or not.
I guess one mans troll is anothers beacon of information.
edit: to make post seem less like trolling and explore my point further.
I would call threads like this and
this trolling. They are based on no facts, sometimes even fiction, lose their way very
easily and go way off track. When challenged the normal response is to give no response. However by the number of stars & flags people actually
believe they are being enlightened when clearly the opposite is true. As i said one mans troll is to others thought provoking.
Hey buddy, whats the model of your web cam, im still having trouble trouble trying to engage it without you being aware. . Btw, i noticed the edited
screen on the geek photo and who you placed in it. I just could not stop laughing
Starting a thread in Conspiracy in Religion board is pretty much trolling as none of the threads there ever have anything to do with conspiracy.
Also throwing in Athiest or religious comments in a thread that has nothing to do with religion will always turn a thread south.
and then hit.
The return key.
every couple of words.
and double space.
While using your own
Mind channeling sessions as
References for your outlandish claims
would be trolling.
Also putting "undeniable" "proof" and "Skeptics look at this" in the thread titles will get the job done. Or just go to skunk works saying you
are an alien or a time travler, the mods seem to let some do it while banning others.
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