Remarks by the President at Memorial Service at Fort Hood, page 1
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Topic started on 10-11-2009 @ 05:11 PM by Sestias
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This is a time of war. Yet these Americans did not die on a foreign field of battle. They were killed here, on American soil, in the heart of this great state and the heart of this great American community. This is the fact that makes the tragedy even more painful, even more incomprehensible.

For those families who have lost a loved one, no words can fill the void that's been left. We knew these men and women as soldiers and caregivers. You knew them as mothers and fathers; sons and daughters; sisters and brothers.

But here is what you must also know: Your loved ones endure through the life of our nation. Their memory will be honored in the places they lived and by the people they touched. Their life's work is our security, and the freedom that we all too often take for granted. Every evening that the sun sets on a tranquil town; every dawn that a flag is unfurled; every moment that an American enjoys life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness -- that is their legacy

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This speech is already being called one of the President's finest. It is a fitting tribute to those who gave their lives for their country while still on American soil.

No speech, however great, can make up for this loss but it is fitting that the President has paid his respects so eloquently.

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reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 05:36 PM by Donny 4 million
reply to post by Carseller4


Wierd I looked at my reply and thought I did a double post LOL .
The subject is not funny and needs some real attention.


reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 05:49 PM by Sestias
reply to post by Carseller4


As I understand it Obama is carefully considering sending more troops to Afghanistan. He promised to do this when he was campaigning. If he ultimately decides against a surge it will be on the best intelligence available.



reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 06:53 PM by Donny 4 million
Originally posted by Sestias
reply to post by Carseller4


As I understand it Obama is carefully considering sending more troops to Afghanistan. He promised to do this when he was campaigning. If he ultimately decides against a surge it will be on the best intelligence available.



Can you honestly imagine these folks haven't had all this crap orchestrated down to the letter?
If you cannot let's get better people in charge of the lives of Americans.
Did your ability to evaluate the Obama campaign stop at his promise to end the war in Iraq by last July?
Ah! didn't think so.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 12:42 AM by ADVISOR
reply to post by Sestias


Very impressive and sincere, that is a strong statement, one worthy of the American President and Commander in Chief.


I wonder if he wrote that, or if one of the many staff speach composers did it for him. Does or did the President have time or the opportunity to perhaps dictate it while performing his multitude of presidential tasks?

I honestly, as of now feel he might not have written it and that it maybe more than likely prewrote for him.

Seeing the televised broadcast would comfirm this for me, if he looked down reading it like a cue card. Or did he say it with out looking at what was wrote. In my opinion, some thing that some one wrote, they would likely have memorized. Or in the very least as short as that passage is, know enough if it to not need visual cues, for a short rehearsal.

Or am I being too speculative, and creating false positives where none exist?

No matter though, if he or some one else wrote it, I understand the message conveyed, and also felt the truth of those words. I would have liked to have heard him say those words live.

I wish not to detract from, the meaning and intention of those words. How ever the ulterior motives of our "government" has me questioning things in excess of what should be.

For good reason though in my opinion. I for one, know better to take what the government aka fed has to tell the people.

Lessoned learned if you will, the hard way it seems...


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 12:55 AM by ADVISOR
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
I find it very pathetic that this so called president chooses to use this tragedy to open his speech with his own personal agenda by saying , " This is a time of war"

Officially we the Unites States of America are Not at war with anyone and are in Peace Time. There has been no congressional declaration of war against any nation.


No, there was how ever a "Presidential declaration", and directives the president "bush jr aka shrub", signed for the Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfield to enact and authorise US Armed Forces to conduct a "War on Terrorism".

There is a difference between these apsects, as the dfferences between the "degrees of truth". Abuses of this kind are what the checks and balances were created for in having distinct seperate sections of government.

That is why it is important for the people to know, understand and spread the knowledge contained with our "Charters of Freedom". Reading them and understanding what they mean. Not just simply know of them, and assumeing one knows what the meaning is.

It is not open to interpretation, the words are very definitive, and specifically worded for clarity and purpose.

If the people understood, that as a nation, we have more authority than the federal, state and local forms of government. We would not be in the position we are...collectively we are at fualt for our governments continued abuses and violations.

Because we have not removed them, by voteing other representatives as replacements.

We collectively as a people, we the people can make a difference. The government is nothing more than a collection of indivuals who are elect by we the people, to support and defend the constitution of the USofA, every one from simple Soldier to President has sworn that oath.

Oath keeper, or breaker. That is the difference, the uphold the oath of a free republic.

Or, violate that oath for personal gain...

Which have we seen from our elect officials? Which choice did they make, or break....

[edit for spelling and to add the below]
To me, it is personal.
To me, an "oathbreaker"(one who has sworn the oath & broke that oath) is in my opinion, a domestic enemy.

Every member of the Armed Forces, has sworn an Oath that quote "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic...". First and foremost in The Oath are those exact words.

Oath Keeper, or oath breaker....
Who are we letting into our government.

We the people need to take a long hard look at ourselves, for allowing the elected to conduct themselves as they have. How can we judge them, if they are the ones we elected in the first place.

We the people...


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reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 02:50 AM by ADVISOR
After having watched the video here, I am more inclined to believe he may have wrote or memorized it.

He looked around, and shows good character in his posture and speaking.

I am less certain in the previous suspicians I had above, but my questioning side still wonders.




reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 06:07 AM by Donny 4 million
Originally posted by Sestias
Originally posted by Donny 4 million

Been there done that dude. What's your creds? Care to hold my apron string next time?
What I am saying is America's butt is hangin out, The American Executive Branch has failed to protect. Since way before 911. Since before the USS Liberty.
Got a problem with that.


What could Obama have done to prevent that attack? You could just as easily blame Bush because he did not protect us from 9/11. Bush actually had prior information on Al Qaeda and its intentions that was passed on to him by the Clinton administration, but he did nothing to act on it until after the attacks.

There are some things no commander and chief can control. One is an attack on our troops by one of their own.

It's funny how those who hate "big government" also think the president should be like mommy and daddy and protect them from all the bad things in the world.

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I think you are getting warmer.
Look it's not just Obama, Bush, Clinton. What about the Security Services the taxpayers support?
The Secretary's of Defense. Office of Homeland Security yada yada yada.
See what I am saying. All these folks Continue to FAIL to protect the people that pay their salaries and die for their aggressions. They fail continuously. 911, Iraq, Afghanistan and now Fort Hood. What next?
Try to see what I am saying. They fail and all we get is excuses. We can't cover all the bases.
We were doing other things, no it was the Armies fault. No it was the CIA, no it was the FBI, No the Mossad.
Absolutly no accountability.

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reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 06:38 AM by Donny 4 million
Originally posted by ADVISOR
After having watched the video here, I am more inclined to believe he may have wrote or memorized it.

He looked around, and shows good character in his posture and speaking.

I am less certain in the previous suspicians I had above, but my questioning side still wonders.


I wish I could view your vid. I did see the speech though.
I thought it was quite ad -lib. He is a speaker form the get go.
G. W. got better as he got richer. LOL
I don't think Hitler had crib notes, not sure.
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