In a day and age where neuro physiology and neuromarketings (subliminal influencing) is becoming more and more of a reality it is more than ever
imperative for us to understand at the very least the basics of brain physiology and how it relates to how we interact with our environment. The
technology to subliminate individuals is here and it is necessary to know that it is indeed possible and not science fiction.
Advertising is essentially proof of this -Proof That The Advertising Industry Is A Form Of
Mind Control Part 2
What should be considered is that we are in a day and age where information is
transmitted and interacted with at a rate that has never occurred before in our
history. But what hasn't changed is the fact that our brains have evolved to take in
stimulii from our environment and use that information as a basis for future decision making behaviours.
This thread is intended to interact with the process of dreaming and how that
information is filed. And how it can be manipulated. And how the future may
concievably manipulate it. This thread is intended to explore the physiological
process of dreams, verify that Subliminals do indeed work (when used correctly) and that it is possible for dreams to be influenced by external
extent that people can (and may have already) manipulated the thoughts,
behaviours and activity of other people.
Let's first establish the dream process....
Dreams are a biological process. In fact, you wouldn't be able to live if the dream
process didn't occur every night (more or less). But what do dreams do? And can
dreams possibly be influenced by external stimulii while one is sleeping? While there are many dream theories, most of which I think can be melded
some of the rhetoric was corrected, I think that the basic premise that dreams are a process intended to allocate recent experience into associative
long term memory. Of course, due to habitual behaviour and the strength of attention given to recent experience, the allocation of recent experience
is going to be somewhat jumbled (which would explain why dreams are seemingly 'random' in effect).
Think of how the brain interacts with memory and experience. The physical aspects are chemical in nature and rely on chemical/electrical modes of
communication within the body (neuron/synaptic/glial 'storage centers'). What this tells us is that memory and experience is assigned a chemical
signature of sorts. The resulting communication to the central nervous system (hormonal release and inclined physical reaction) is based on how that
experience was interpreted in the past and provides a foundation for how an individual will react to similar situations in the future. This basic
expression also necessarily implicates that some inclined behaviours are genetic in nature and are passed from the parents to the offspring but that
is another thread...
So experience gets assigned chemical attributes which then get lumped together
and form, for lack of better terminology, associative chains. Dreams are the process of allocating experience to memory. The hippocampus is believed
to a part of the area where memory is stored; indeed "long term potentiation" (believed to be the "neural mechanism by which memory is stored in
the brain", was first 'discovered' by the study of the hippocampal area. 
Psychologists and neuroscientists generally agree that the hippocampus has an important role in the formation of new memories about experienced events
(episodic or autobiographical memory). Part of this role is hippocampal involvement in the detection of novel events, places and stimuli.
Some researchers view the hippocampus as part of a larger medial temporal lobe memory system responsible for general declarative memory (memories that
can be explicitly verbalized—these would include, for example, memory for facts in
addition to episodic memory).
While this fact is currently de facto, an interesting aspect of its' location in the
brain is that it is next to the amygdala.
If you remember only one word about the amygdala, the word is FEAR. The amygdala is the nucleus responsible for the lurch you feel in your stomach
when you turn around in a dark alley and notice someone following you. It couples a learned sensory stimulus (man in ski mask in alley = danger) to an
adaptive response (fight or flight). On the basis of this information, you should be able to guess the primary inputs to and outputs from the
Inputs: the amygdala must get sensory input, and it must be fairly highly
processed input to recognize the elements of a scene that signal danger. The
association areas of visual, auditory, and somatosensory cortices are the main inputs to the amygdala.
Outputs: the amygdala must be able to control the autonomic system, to provoke such an instant sympathetic response. The main outputs of
the amygdala are to the hypothalamus and brainstem autonomic centers, including the vagal nuclei and the sympathetic neurons.
The amygdala is also involved with mood and the conscious emotional response to an event, whether positive or negative. To this end, the
amygdala is also extensively interconnected with frontal cortex, mediodorsal thalamus, and the medial striatum.
 My Emphasis
Please pay attention to the emphasized.
Now...we have established, effectively if briefly, that the hippocampus is implicated
in long term memory (really, I think that long term memory is more of a wide
spread physical phenomena and implicit in the function of each neuron) and as well we have just established that the amgdala, which is situated next
to the hippocampus region, helps determine the type of 'signals' that get communicated to the central nervous system...determining the emotions we
feel and the type of physical reactions that we are inclined to use as response to a situation.
The placement of these regions in relation to each other is illustrated in the
I propose that the positioning of these two regions of the brain indicate that they are reliant upon each other for the communication of recent (and
long term depending on individual routines) experience to the central nervous
sytem...essentially keeping the body in line with the brains reaction/interpretation of experience for the survival of the individual. In fact,
The Limbic System
charachterized as the consolidation and reactionary distribution of the information
collected by the rest of the brain (I am sure that I am over simplifying but I think
that is a sufficient summary for now).
Now the dream process is where we 'download' experience into memory and the
amygdala draws from the associative memory to help determine physical reaction to subsequent experience.
How does this relate to Subliminals?
First...let us briefly establish that subliminals are indeed effective...if used correctly.
Subliminal Research Project Post 1
Subliminal Reasearch Project Post 2 (Essentially proving that subliminals can
influence the reactions and potential behviours of humans
For those who don't go through the above links, the following excerpt is very
important to this topic:
Subliminal Learning Demonstrated In Human Brain
ScienceDaily (Aug. 28, 2008) — Although the idea that instrumental learning can occur subconsciously has been around for nearly a century, it had
not been unequivocally demonstrated. Now, a new study published by Cell Press in the August 28 issue of the journal Neuron used sophisticated
perceptual masking, computational modeling, and neuroimaging to show that instrumental learning can occur in the human brain without conscious
processing of contextual cues. My Emphasis
So it is indeed proven that subliminals can be effective...but only if they are
corrolated to the individual's inclination. For exammple, a nervous person will react more strongly to subliminals intended to induce anxiety.
Happy individuals will react more strongly to subliminals intended to induce comfort.
On to Dream Subliminals.
What if subliminal messaging were used during the dream process? Could this
inflect the behaviour of an individual? Could dream subliminals be used to control
To an extent, I believe that the answer is yes.
See, if subliminals are given to an individual during the dream process then it
would supposedly follow that these subliminals would piggy back to the
associative allocations of experience (I actually have issue with the time frame of
this process; I think that subliminals in the dream process would be considered
experience by the brain and won't necessarily be involved in the 'download
process' until the next dream cycle) and inflect the memory of experience if the
subliminals were custom tailored to induce a specific and consistent emotive reaction.
I have experienced, in 2001, a situation where I slept through a radio alarm. Before I woke up, I dreamed of the Yankees winning one of their Playoff
Series games. In the dream, I dreamt of a catch and heard the score of the game. Upon awakening, I recalled this and knew that the Yankees had won
the previous night...because I had heard it from the radio. The process of recall was such that I was visulaizing the descriptions of one of the
plays that had occurred.
So through subjective experience, I know that there is a level of recall given to
the experience of external stimulii while dreaming.
Now...there are threads on this site that suggest that there are already satellites in place to start communicating subliminally.
US govt mind control
Military AI Supercomputer Mind Monitoring: What I have learned
And to a lesser extent...
Can the brain learn to "read" radio waves???
...this thread begs the question of
whether or not the brain can evolve to recognize the content of radio/cellular waves...
The above threads suggest that there are already millions of dollars that have been spent to provide the equipment by which to accomplish
surriptitious remote influencing. And if one has experienced it overtly while conscious then it stands to reason that there is interaction during the
dream state...unconscious interaction.
It's a work in progress but I know I am tripping up on a few points...as well as the flow of the thread. My point is to provide some physiological
foundation for the idea of Dream Subliminals. I know that the implementation of dream subliminals couldn't possibly be one hundred percent effective
at this point in our comprehension but there is reason to believe that they can
have an effect.
And at this point, given the rate of discovery and the amount of research that is going on, it is irresponsible for the conspiracy theorist to not
keep up, to not make an attempt to learn more about oneself and why
so much money has been spent to learn about how the brain processes
information and why the government has spent time on the MK projects.
It is irresponsible to not look into the reason why so many patents
been submitted and approved for the remote influencing of behaviour.
This is ATS...and it is time for us as a conspiracy theory community to raise the bar. Let us understand ourselves prior to pondering the social
issues that the mainstream media provides for our consumption.
Dream Subliminals...what say ye ATS?