Andrew Basiago is predicted "planetary level" whistleblower

For those questioning my intentions, I posted this article because I thought it was interesting what the web bot was saying about Basiago. It has nothing to do with whether or not I believe in it or believe Mr. Basiago's story, just an interesting prediction I thought I'd share.

reply to post by korats


I never put any strength into anyone's work. Where are you getting your information from? You like making stuff up I'm sure. I merely thought it was an interesting prediction and that's why I posted. Now go find someone else to bug.

reply to post by InfaRedMan


Amazing what people will believe!

BTW, as far as your signature's personalities, you've left out a hell of a lot that deserve to be with the ones you selected. Just the authors of UFO books ought to give you a few hundred photos! Add Whitley Strieber, Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs, Travis Walton, Stanton Friedman ...

Originally posted by micpsi
Basiago is a sophisticated disinfo agent being used by one or more alphabet agencies to discredit growing interest in old rumors of secret military missions to the Moon & Mars, secret government collaboration with aliens, etc, Anyone listening to him can tell that he does, indeed, very likely have an intelligence background - that's why he sounds so convincing, whether you believe him or not. I have checked some of the names of the CIA agents he claimed to have been involved in and they are real people. His research paper claiming to provide evidence of life on Mars is the give-way. It's such bad science that it can only have been cobbled together with the intention of making people who are sympathetic to aliens, wormhole technology, secret missions, etc look like idiots if they take the material seriously. He has secretly agreed, I believe, with his handlers at Disinfo Central at Langley, Virginia (or wherever) to set himself up so that, when the media start to take notice, his claims - and by association, the whole subject - will be made a laughing stock.

Basiago is a walking PSY-OP to discredit in the minds of the general public all that he talks about. And many are being fooled....

And, yet, alleged "remote viewer" Ingo Swann is given a high mark here on ATS Aliens and UFOs forum! Shows to go ya!

reply to post by The Shrike


So anyone that authors a UFO book is a charlatan by default?



Whatever.

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Argyll

 

Well, I'm convinced that he doesn't belive what he says is true at all.
But that is just me.

I don't see how any rational person could.
But, I do see your point.

Alright, alright, I won't break his nose. I'm really not the violent type anyhow. Lets just consider it my way of saying that I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY don't agree with what this guy is pushing and that I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY think that people should take a much closer look at what they are seeing in those photos.
Yeah, I want proof of ET life as much as anyone. In fact, I don't need it myself, I know it is real and better yet, that it is engaging this planet actively. However, I try hard not to let my imagination get the best of me...

No, that is not a group of aliens playing poker in the middle of a dried up lakebed.
That is a rock.

And I strongly feel that the people who are pushing that crap know it just as well as I do. Yet they also know that there are a lot of people out there who REALLY want to believe so much so that they will listen to and consider the thoughts of anyone who can put their voice out there in an authorative manner.

These people prey on the gullibility of those with good intentions.
And if I were ever able to speak with this person enough to confirm my suspicions of him, breaking his nose would be the least of his worries. Better yet would be to catch this guy making a mockery of the people who buy his bullsnap and parade it around the world ruining his credibility forever. And then break his nose.

i agree 1000%!



we can start to bust his nose right here at ats.

reply to post by fooks


I really feel like it is getting to the point that people NEED to start "busting their nose" right here at ATS.
I mean, we cannot have people jumping all over this rock outcrop bullsnap and claiming that it is proof of an extraterrestrial base on Mars.

It is absurd!

I mean, I can't believe what I see in these threads.

Especailly the ones where people are like "look at this rock field. Now look at it when I draw some blue highlights on it. Looks like buildings now, right?"

Of course it does!

But without your suggestion, it looks like a bunch of focking rocks!
And that is all it is!

reply to post by owlseleven


Project Camelot, now there is another can of worms. The enemy they seek within is not Andy, I can tell you that. I know who, but...I would rather you follow the history than I out and tell you.

I can vouch for Andy. He is mostly harmless, and he did a bang-up job with Celestial Secrets. UFO research is going paranormal these days.

Going on record, Andy's Project Pegasus is not the same as our Pegasus Research Consortium, or Stargate Antlantis' Pegasus. These are all different breeds.

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by The Shrike

 

So anyone that authors a UFO book is a charlatan by default?

Whatever.

Did I say "anyone"? I've read hundreds of UFO books and, much to my dismay, they mostly sucked. I'm not a believer and they are written for believers.


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reply to post by The Shrike


No, you didn't say "anyone."
But when you say "Read a UFO book and you'll have hundreds." it pretty much implies anyone who authors one.

Not that it matters, our positions are already out there and to debate this would go off topic.

reply to post by The Shrike


Ingo Swann on the other hand isn't just given High Marks here on these forums, he is given "high marks" by the US Military as a pioneer of Remote Viewing practice.
But that, once again, is the subject for another thread.

Well today, 11-11 is the latest predicted date of ET disclosure from another thread. I would do a backflip if Obama had a press conference today and instead of talking about the shootings, Afghanistan, Veterans day, or the economy he says, "I have been provided with evidence for the existence of intelligent life-forms and structures on Mars..."

you made my day , OP. Something i definitely never heard of.
nice job letting us know here on ATS.

Originally posted by The Shrike
reply to post by InfaRedMan

 

Amazing what people will believe!

BTW, as far as your signature's personalities, you've left out a hell of a lot that deserve to be with the ones you selected. Just the authors of UFO books ought to give you a few hundred photos! Add Whitley Strieber, Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs, Travis Walton, Stanton Friedman ...

Yes there are a lot of people that have not been included so I only featured the characters that personally annoy me the most! It does need an update or at least a change. I might even dedicate a thread to them all soon if I get the time.

I'm not sure I agree with your rationale that every author who writes a book on the topic is a charlatan though. There are some very credible authors trying to make sense of this whole phenomena, like Vallee and Dolan to name a couple.

IRM

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How funny to read these posts. I actually know Andy Basiago, and he is close friend. We've discussed his time travel and teleportation adventures over the past few years. It has been quite interesting. When I first heard his story, it was mind-blowing, and took me a few days to integrate. He has quite a bit of depth and detail about those experiences.

No, he is not an undercover agent working a secret agenda. Oh, by the way, I am not either. He is a good, honest, and ethical person. He says what he believes to be true. You will have to decide if what he believes is actually true.

Now, the Mars thing is something else, and it should be separated from the teleportation experiences. I have had the impression that his Mars analysis is diversionary for him. Unfortunately, I just see rocks, so I cannot provide any supportive discussion regarding his claims about Mars.

I had hoped he would he would just focus on the time-travel, teleportation experiences, but he became engrossed in the Mars topic over the last year.

November 11, 2009, he will be on Coast-to-Coast AM with George Noory. Hopefully, more information will come out and we will have more to discuss. What I actually hope will happen is, if what he is saying is true about Project Pegasus, others will come forward and we will see more disclosure.

Oh my. That pdf is singly the most embarrassing UFO related stuff I have ever read. If he truly believes he can see some of that stuff then he needs help. I mean here is a sample

We can see two men – half like beetles – pitch forward to confront a plesiosaur (top), as
serpents with goofy faces slither up the hill and tiny humanoids seek refuge by
clambering onto a rock (bottom). This phantasmagoric scene suggests that the sparse
vegetation on Mars makes predation between biological life forms especially intense.

If Ufology wants to be taken seriously, as almost a science, then faux, non-peer reviewed papers like this (Im assuming it has been written to appear as a scientific article, with abstracts, methodology and references) need to be dismissed. Of course he has every right to say his piece and his beliefs, but do not dress it up as science and present it as such.


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Originally posted by msecret
I actually know Andy Basiago, and he is close friend.

Not something I would readily admit! Each to their own I guess...

he is not an undercover agent working a secret agenda.

I agree!

Oh, by the way, I am not either.

You know what they say... 'Birds of a feather' and all that

He is a good, honest, and ethical person.

LOL! Has it ever struck you that he may have an undiagnosed mental disorder? It's far more probable than his teleporting story!

He says what he believes to be true.

It's just a shame that what he believes is tripe!

You will have to decide if what he believes is actually true.

I think we already have!

Now, the Mars thing is something else, and it should be separated from the teleportation experiences.

Impossible I'm afraid!

I have had the impression that his Mars analysis is diversionary for him.

How about delusional?

Unfortunately, I just see rocks, so I cannot provide any supportive discussion regarding his claims about Mars.

There's nothing unfortunate about that. It is what it is.

November 11, 2009, he will be on Coast-to-Coast AM with George Noory. Hopefully, more information will come out and we will have more to discuss.

Hopefully this mate of yours just goes away and stops destroying the field of research to feed his own narcissism. He does not represent the serious side such research. He does not represent us. We don't want him there. Be sure to tell him that will you!


IRM

[edit on 11/11/09 by InfaRedMan]

Things to concider:
"Jump Rooms" ..the concept of interdimensonal travel is not as far fetched as it sounds, and is being dicussed in theory by many current and reknown Physicist Mical Kaiku being one of them. If inter dimensional travel is discussed seriously then why not intra-dimensional travel. Rumors of "Jump Rooms" / teleportation go back to Sumerian, Vedic, and Mayan cultures, up to rumored experiements by the Nazi's and then the Montauk experiements. Where there is smoke, there is fire..even Cro Mag man knew that !
I find it hard to believe at this time in our technology that we cant take close up and clear color photo's of the surface of the Moon and Mars. Its my feeling that some things are just kept from the public for whatever reason. This is most likely supported by people who have nothing to gain and eveything to loose over total disclosure of science and technology that has been kept from the public.

The buddahist of Nepal have led the world for ages in "prayer discipline" believeing in the human's collective concscience being able to mold future events. Computer modeling of phrases is nothing more than sampling human conscience as its expressed in text. What becomes real in our time continum and what ill effects that our society has on concurrent races in a parallel universe or universes (this also is a wide spread topic of PHD's) all come into play as we concider and form our future.

REmote viewing is a fact and has been used by various governements for their own agendas including ours..How accurate and in what context is debatable but its real and has been used for centuries (ancient augries) oracles..to the Remote Viewers on the Dozier case in the 80's.

If concidering the possibities is to much of a mental effort then flame on ..its the easist form of denial and indicative of ignorance. Dont be the last one on the beach when the Tasume hits.. it happened..in thailand in 2005.

Of course life is on Mars. (and lots of water)

It has been evident for years now.


This does not change my worldview one iota as when I was a child I understood that the earth itself is a "living entity".

From that childlike perspective I then concluded that the Universe itself could be considered "living" and therefore full of life.

If the general public begin to become aware of this it will be interesting as they will soon grasp that they are not the top of the food chain.

No wonder Lemay was so freaked out about this. lol

yeesh. The photos are pretty much all available.

even a cursory glance at the photo indicated as a water fall will show you that it is hardly that and there certainly aren't any humans gathered about it.

yes, there is likely water all throughout our solar system. Large standing bodies of it though? Well, that seems to be only Earth and Europa so far that show that.

It is interesting that people desperate to push their weird ideas go to a lot of trouble by manipulating the photos in order to manipulate you into buying ...their book? lol

You can clearly see that what he is indicating as a structure and a waterpipe with flow and humans is somewhere in the area of less than a meter across. Just google the image he states by number, go to jpl, download the high res photo and look for yourself.

what does web bot say about porn? because we know that most of the internet is porn and gambling sites.