Alright, I have been a little critical of these types of threads in the past.
So, I decided to pour over the second image linked by a poster on page one. Apparently the two photos this guy used to see all of this crazy-awesome stuff.


I looked over every inch of that photo three times just to make sure I wasn't missing something.

Now, I am ready to say, and I am being completely honest here, that if I ever met this guy in person I would break his nose.
This is ridiculous. There is NOTHING, and I mean absolutely NOTHING in that photo other than rocks and sand.

While looking at the photos a thought did occur to me that this isn't necessarily a fools hope in looking through these photos though. Although, I would probably not bother looking for buildings, but instead small insectoid type animals living in the sand. Problem is, the pictures are only clear enough to see something like that, if it is there, just in front of the rover.

I did see two things that struck me as odd. One was a rock that was clearly out of place in the second photo. I could see where the rock came from and even a track in the dust on the rocks between where it came from and where it currently sits. However, without knowing which way the camera on the rover is facing, there is no way to say that it was moved there by anything other than the rover itself.
The other was something that was colored really weird. Looked completely out of place to everything around it. However, since it was more than just a couple of feet away from the rover, it wasn't in clear enough focus to make out what it could have possibly been.
In both cases, I would wager everything I'm worth that neither of them were anything remarkable at all.

I can't stress enough for people to keep a few things in context when looking at these photos.
1) What you are seeing in the immediate foreground is not nearly as large as it may appear to be in the photo. These photos are taken by a rover that is as small as a large dog. In a lot of these cases, these shadows that are being mistaken for upright beings are no more than a few inches tall.
2) If someone tells you that people are sitting around a table out in the middle of a barren wasteland, be suspicious. What are they doing? Playing Spades? Remember, this person is deducing this stuff from what he sees in shadows. None of this stuff is clear cut as he would have you believe.

What I see are a bunch of flippin rocks and some sand. Nothing more.

Although, that second photo is pretty cool. It looks like it was clearly taken in the bed of what USED TO BE a lake. I can see what he considers to be running water. It was a trough that had soil discoloration due to the fact that there is ice just below the surface, by my estimation. Depending on when the photo was taken, it may even be melting into liquid water... so he could be half right on that one.

Dogs heads carved into rocks?


Ridiculous.

[edit on 10-11-2009 by JayinAR]

Lol Basiago is not Willcock search for veritas show

On one interview (not veritas) he did sound like him tho. But 2 persons.

This guy seems sketchy at best. A forced disinfo agent (with a few credentials) is my bet.

The problem with the web bot is you, me, us. For it to have had any chance of working we could not talk about it, AT ALL. Us talking about it skews the results more and more as time passes.

If they had kept it all to themselves from the beginning and all the way through until the end of the project, I predict that their predictions would have been much more accurate. However, the results mean nothing after the fact, so they would have been in a catch 22 situation.

And lets not forget the income that would have been lost from using good scientific methods over bad. It's a shame because it's an interesting project, and you can bet that most countries are using similar web bots for intelligence gathering.

if the united states is capable of traveling forward in time to retrieve documents about mars and life on mars, can someone tell me how we ended up in a recession? if the united states can travel into the future, can someone tell me why some of the most devastating catastrophe still claim the lives that it did? if someone can travel into the future, how did they get back?

some will say," the butterfly effect, change one event and you change everything." traveling into the future should be sufficient enough of an event to alter life on earth as we know it. yet, i don't see, feel, or taste a difference.

some might say," will maybe it has, you just don't know it." we should already be living like the jetson, i can tell the difference trust me.

if there is a future to travel to than we all have a destiny, just drop what you're doing, sit down and let destiny do what it has to do. forget about work, forget everything, it's no use. just accept your fate. its pointless since no matter what you do, you'll end up in the same future. this can't be right, some will say. will, wouldn't our future change infinitely for every little action that we do now? if someone were to travel into the future, how would they know its the right future for their present? our future is constantly changing with every death, every sunrise, every fish caught in the sea.

lets just trash our planet, kill all the whales, nuke the amazon and who cares? all we need to know is that we have a future and thats all that matter. nothing we can do now to change it, someones already been there, according to this thread, and we're all alive and kicking. the future is invincible, nothing will change it they say.

Originally posted by korats
Lol Basiago is not Willcock search for veritas show

On one interview (not veritas) he did sound like him tho. But 2 persons.

Yes, I've listened to the Veritas Show interview. Mel Fabregas even makes a point of mentioning that Basiago is not Wilcock because of the undercurrent of apprehensive questions generated by Basiago's prior interview with "Jessica Mystic." I wish Mel hadn't done that. The Veritas interview is audio like any and all interviews Basiago will ever conduct. You will find 2 pictures of "Basiago" on his Facebook page. These pictures are of an authentic person, but the individual conducting these interviews as Andrew D. Basiago is David Wilcock. It's a sick story, but it's true.

Maybe H. G. Wells was actually right.

Web Bots predicting "stuff" and a guy claiming to teleport to Muuuurzzzz?

Lions and Tigers oh my. The strangest and most offensive thing to me is that there are real conspiracies that are provable, real evidence of E.T. life to be looked over, real coverups of such life.

But "web Bots" and children teleported to Mars? If that's your thing........

Just don't expect people who visit ATS on their first drop in, to really take this place seriously, or you seriously. Sure, you'll hook some gullible person who is looking for "magic" in the world. Fairy tales and fantasy out of boredom....

"Planetary Level Whisleblower" sounds completely fruitcakey, contrived, and all around LAME. Who came up with that term? The OP?

And a BOT predicted this by using speech(keywords) to figure what the "collective conscious" is feeling or moving toward?

Pseudo Science ROCKS doesn't it?

I have a machine that measures the harmonic flow of "Happy Smells" from our pores into the air. Can't tell you exactly how it works, or prove what Happy Smells are. But I'm sure if I make a Website about it, oh I dunno, a few thousand might take me seriously and I can sell enough T-Shirts to pay the rent?

Happy Smell Theory....it's the latest thing.

Oh, also, I did find a rock that needs to be looked at to see if there are any fossils in it.
I'm quite sure that the second photograph was taken from an ancient lakebed. In that lakebed, and not too far from the rover, was a rock that looked like a weathered piece of Earthly limestone, or most likely the martian equivalent. Very pourous.
I'm quite sure that at one time Mars was a very lively planet. There should be fossils in those limestone-like rocks.