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Tu-2000 - wtf, Aurora copy?

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posted on May, 20 2004 @ 01:30 AM
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another pic

The Tu-2000 space launcher would have weighted 260 tonnes at lift-off and be capable of Mach 25 (orbital velocity). An 8 to 10 tonne payload would have been delivered to a 200 km orbit
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according to this
Single stage to orbit, scramjet air breather. Tupolev assigned to start work in 1993. Mockup built, and some subscale flights to Mach 6 on tactical missiles of scramjet model, but project now dormant due to lack of funds. Wing area 160 square meters, wing sweep 70 degrees. Two crew.

they used igla to test engines, speed Mach 6-16 (note: faster than X-43
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and also: "xolod", 5 test flights done reaching Mach 6.49



Tu-2000:
1995 estimated cost to build one - $480m
1995 estimated cost to launch one - $13.6m

too bad this programme was frozen in1992. argghhh... money is always a problem

[Edited on 20-5-2004 by titus]




posted on May, 20 2004 @ 01:35 AM
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posted on May, 20 2004 @ 01:37 AM
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This project is now named AJAX

It is still in the works.

Out,
Russian



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 01:42 AM
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Here is a link that will give you some info on AJAX.

World Forum

Hope that helps.

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posted on May, 20 2004 @ 01:44 AM
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i just tried a google search but came up with something about dinosaurs



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by drunk
i just tried a google search but came up with something about dinosaurs


Try the link


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posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by drunk
i just tried a google search but came up with something about dinosaurs




do google for tu-2000 and yu'll find some stuff



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:11 AM
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As far as I know this is more of a NASP copy... see the threads drunk posted



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by Shugo
As far as I know this is more of a NASP copy... see the threads drunk posted


and dont tell me tu-360 is a copy too:


hypersonic fighter bomber
takeoff weight - 350,000 kg
speed - Mach 6 cruise
range - 6,000 km



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:27 AM
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Yes, except the fact that Aurora wasn't designed to be a bomber... look at the project and you'll find out everything you'll need to know.

[Edited on 20-5-2004 by Shugo]



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:29 AM
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crapppp... they dont even look same to mee



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:30 AM
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They're based. X-30, Tu-360, and Tu-2000 I bet you anything somewhere it says they're all linked to each other. The basic design does not match Aurora though.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:32 AM
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Russian> i clicked the link you posted it was alot more helpful than dinosaurs i tell you that!



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by drunk
Russian> i clicked the link you posted it was alot more helpful than dinosaurs i tell you that!


Thanks!!!

Out,
Russian



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by Shugo
They're based. X-30, Tu-360, and Tu-2000 I bet you anything somewhere it says they're all linked to each other. The basic design does not match Aurora though.


linked, they are all objects that can fly hypersonic



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 02:37 AM
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That's about the only way they really are linked. The hyper-soar is linked into all of them as well. Except the design does not fit that of the Aurora's. The Aurora is a "rounded" delta aircraft. But, the XR-7 Thunderdart what you could call a fighter version of the Aurora is a sheer delta shape.



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 06:19 AM
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"Copies" indeed. That's tantamount to saying the Mig-29 is a "copy" of the F-15 simply because they look very similar.

One cannot say that any aircraft is a copy of the Aurora because nobody has ever seen one up close. All we know is that it's a large black delta shape. Maybe. The angle of sweep on the delta is also reputed to be less than what the Tu 2000 has.

Hypersonic aircraft are constrained by VERY severe drag and heating effects, and therefore only a few practical designs exist for them. While it is true that the Buran shuttle was very heavily based on the American shuttle, the Russians are not so stupid that they have to copy American designs for anything remotely cool or high-tech. If asked to design a hypersonic vehicle with currently foreseeable technology, any aerospace engineering student would only produce one of a few possible fuselage and engine combinations.

[Edited on 20-5-2004 by Lampyridae]



posted on May, 20 2004 @ 07:50 AM
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do not forget the splendid tupolev 160 "blackjack" nor the exhuberant tupolev 22 "blinder C" and the fabulous "mandrake" as kinda russian evoluation of aviation.

would they have more exotic secret stuff in stock / storage ?

who knows ? just try it out by asking russian airforces brass (do not forget to take a bunch of full "johnny walker" bottles with you
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posted on May, 21 2004 @ 06:15 AM
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Indeed. However, they better talk good for some Blue Label.


[Edited on 21-5-2004 by Lampyridae]



posted on May, 22 2004 @ 12:12 PM
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do you know your avatar looks like an english "beefeater" ,tower of london guard ??





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