Christ was a Magus

Earliest reference describes Christ as 'magician'
Bowl dated between late 2nd century B.C. and the early 1st century A.D.







See? We are not so different, after all. Why, then, do Christians hate Pagans so much? Even the Bible was mostly taken from Pagan writings, and Pagan holidays were "churched up," and ancient Pagan Temples were built over with churches, in a vain attempt to stamp out Goddess worship and Pagan rituals. Not to mention the thousands, if not millions, who were burned, hanged, and put to the sword for not conforming to Christian religion. Folks, it is time to pound our swords into plowshares once again, and go back to peaceful farming to feed the masses. The land is ours, by the way, all we have to do is tell the government we are talking it back. what can the do to us, anyway?

magical annointment?
Could it possibly have held annointing oils?

Um, first off, Christians dont hate pagans, they hate what they do. Secondly, when in history has christians ever burned millions at the stake for not converting. The only religion im aware of that converts by the sword is islam.

This was found last year and doesn't really mean much. In the bible, there are instances of people saying Jesus/Yeshua was a worker of magick (and influenced by demons and devils.) Moreover, there is an instance in the bible where the seven sons of Sceva were beat up by a demon possessed person because they invoked the power of Jesus "whom Paul preaches" (Acts 19:13-17.)

What I'm basically saying is because the title "Christ" was written on the cup, it doesn't mean it was his cup, that he drank from it, that he used it, etc. It could mean that it wasn't his cup and the title was written on it to help invoke his power (like his name was used to invoke power in the scriptures I provided.)

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christ was probably initiated in all of the secret mystery schools of that time, including the magicians, i am not surprised

the three gifts given to him by the wise men were also part of initiatory practices

remember he was missing for 17 years.. should google around to see which countries and regions he was in.. he was very busy

He was never "missing" for 17 years the bible actually tells you where he was.

There is no "pagan" that term often misused is for all non-Abrahamic religions. So it is a very broad term and not best used when comparing anything. There is no curch of pegans or a group of people calling themselves the pagans and if there is such a group they are retards.

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Like when historians mention a crestus doesn't mean it was your guy.

Or when a tomb contains jesus son of joseph, again not your guy.

I totally agree, just because the word christ appears somewhere does not mean it is related to the fictitious guy in the gospels as the'rse no evidence for that guy.

I would perhaps be more inclined to speculate that the cup belonged to another christ perhaps one of flesh and blood.

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Why do you lump all Christians into a single stereotype?

It is not just possible that only some do?

The effort here is to stop the stereotyping. Everyone, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Pagans, are all individuals first. Religion, by itself, is nothing but an abstract concept. It take the human factor to make any of it good or bad.

Maybe we should not judge the whole of any people by a skin color, nationality or faith. Maybe... just maybe, we should give each person the right to speak for themselves and then, be held accountable for their own deeds.

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And also "Christ" is not a name it is a title like prophet or presidednt just because something says christ does not mean they are refering to Jesus.

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Those things may not be applicable to Jesus/Yeshua, and simply saying they refer to him due to similarities in spelling or date is not logical. So yes I agree with you 100%. Anything else?

reply to post by autowrench

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Wo! Hold on a moment. The crucifixion occurred somewhere in the 30s in the first century. The last book to be written (assuming the later date), the book of Revelation, was completed before the end of the first century.



Taken from the 12-volume "Expositor's Bible Commentary", F.E. Gaebelein, general editor

Many people are not aware that there are fragments of the New Testament in existence which literally or virtually go back to the time of the original authors:



Source: bethinking.com

The markings on the bowl (which, to be honest, likely have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ) cannot be compared to the eyewitness testimony of those who lived and ate with Christ himself, both before and after his resurrection, then recorded in-depth accounts of what they had seen and heard.

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The Crusades and the Inquisition were both religiously themed, by Christianity.

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Christos {khris-tos'} translated Christ was a common word in that era.

It simply means "anointed one" or 'messiah' an equivalent term to the Hebrew 'mashach'.

You are drawing a long bow to speculate that this could specifically be a reference to Jesus imo.