UK surveillance plan to go ahead, page 1
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Topic started on 9-11-2009 @ 12:31 PM by jpmail
news.bbc.co.uk...

The Home Office says it will push ahead with plans to ask communications firms to monitor all internet use.

Ministers confirmed their intention despite concerns and opposition from some in the industry.

The proposals include asking firms to retain information on how people use social networks such as Facebook.

Some 40% of respondents to the Home Office's consultation opposed the plans - but ministers say communication interception needs to be updated.

Looks like a dangerous road to go down. The article does not say who will have access to this information or how long it is to be kept but I don't like.

Personally I never post anything on the internet I would not want the world to see but where is the privacy laws in all of this?

I just hope that the E.U as much as I dislike it will put a stop to this.


reply posted on 14-11-2009 @ 05:03 AM by Britguy
If I followed my local MP everywhere he went, sat outside his house watching and photographing his every move, where he went, who he met and bugged his phones and internet connection, I'd be locked up. Yet that is, in effect, what they want to do to us. This has absolutely bugger all to do with security but everything to do with the government (not only our own!) wanting to mark out those dissenters in society.
This is already happening, where people have been stopped by armed police and threatened with arrest under "anti-terrorism" laws, simply because they went to a peaceful demo outside an arms manufacturer / exporter. Their vehicle license plate was logged and then the police ANPR system used to flag them up as terrorist suspects when they subsequently took a drive to London.
That is an abuse of the system and had absolutely no justification whatsoever, except for the government and it's police stooges to intimidate people who had commited no crime or broken any law.

The crazy thing is, the government's own data registrar - the authority on use of any government held data and it's privacy issues - has no jurisdiction over the police use of a lot of this collected information, and in a recent interview referred the interviewer to the Home Secretary for answers on data use and privacy (who then referred the inteviewer back to the data registrar and waffled a lot trying to wriggle out of the issue).

Bottom line - they are collecting data for the sake of logging us all and nothing more. As mentioned already, the bad guys will always find a way to mask their online activity or use low-tech methods of communication, thus rendering the expensive blanket surveillance useless.

Of course, there is also the monetary aspect, and who gets the contract for setting up and maintaining the system. Like any other government IT project, it'll be months / years late, cost at least double what we are told and prove to be useless. But it'll swell the coffers and stock portfolio of those in the know.
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