AP IMPACT: Framed for child porn — by a PC virus

zaiger

I really wish I could believe what you are saying, tell the Police, you'll be fine if innocent. Where this maybe be true and no conviction is brought against you, your very reputation in you local community will be in pieces, nothing and I mean nothing will convince the 'people' that you are innocent. Because as a rule 'people' are pretty dumb, they will believe you to be guilty and that the cops just couldn't find enough evidence.

No smoke without fire.


If anyone has this happen to them, then a simple delete of the file won't help. Only real way is to physically destroy the hard drive. Reinstall your apps and get wise to security.

Good luck guys, the Internet is a wonderful but dangerous world.

Originally posted by ANNED

Originally posted by zaiger
Well there is nothing to worry about really. If the cops can get all the contents of a hard drive that has been formatted im sure they can tell what was put there and what was looked for.
The cops really go after people who make and trade it because those people have collections and there is a profile that the pedos fall under. It would be like me mailing you an once of coc aine and calling the cops to have you arrested for posession once you checked your mail.
The only people who will be prosocuted as a result of this are the people who keep the photos that get storred on their computer and or do not report it. So if this happens to you or someone you know just call the cops and you will be fine.

You really trust the cops to care if someone else put it on your computer.

Big city departments might have computer forensics people but many small departments do not and would not care you are just another conviction to them.
Many southern state cops are so corrupt that they would not care unless you could pay them off.
you would just be another star on there record of convictions.

www.theherald.com.au...
www.crime-research.org...
www.freerepublic.com...
www.rcmpwatch.com...
www.pcworld.com...

This is just a small number of the cases where the cops did not care.

Even with all your cop hate you have to admit that the second link wasn't the cops fault.

Originally posted by Britman
zaiger

Only real way is to physically destroy the hard drive. Reinstall your apps and get wise to security.

Not entirely true. While a sledge hammer certainly will destroy data on a hard drive, there are tools that will keep files deleted permanently. Secure Delete works just fine. These tools will perform DoD (Department of Defense) compliant erasure of files or empty space where old deleted files still exist on your hard drive to insure that crooks or spy's wont steal your secrets or pilfer your bank account when selling or disposing of an old computer.

SDelete implements the Department of Defense clearing and sanitizing standard DOD 5220.22-M

Of course the only way to see what files can be recovered on your computer is to use a file recovery program like Restorer Ultimate. You can test to see what files can be recovered without purchasing the product as that function is free. I've used this product to recover pictures for clients that were deleted unintentionally and this is also the type of software that police forensic techs will use to find erased data involved in criminal investigations after files, history & temporary files have been deleted.

[edit on 10-11-2009 by verylowfrequency]

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by alyosha1981

 

A couple of years ago,I opened a webpage for one topic and was lead
to a porn page.As a christian,I was a little shocked by the incident.

lmao soz i find that so funny.
Why as a christain would you find pictures of naked adults, merging in act of plesure shocking. Would Jesus find it shocking? I doubt it, he use to hang out with prostitutes... Infact he would probably be holding the camera.
You are jocking, right?
kx

If you really don't want to fear about this : use a system that will never need antivirus.

Linux, ubuntu is quite simple for human being. Or a mac if appearances are impotant, and if a luxurious gadget help you in your self estime.

I think we are seeing a meme being born
"as a christian i was offended"
He herd i lieked mudkips, as a christian i was offended.

Viruses infect Linux boxes as well, they are not magically immune. They just develop less viruses, since they are not the largest target. Most viruses now are a for-profit affair, and MS users are their most vulnerable / largest targets. However, I've had Linux system infected before, just as I've had Firefox infected and vulnerable as well, nothing is really immune.

As far as this goes, if you have the porn and claim it was the virus, the virus would be present, that would be easy to check.

The best protection isn't an anti-virus program though, it's the system restore utility. Enable it, and make sure you have enough space on your HDD for it to run properly. That is the most effective way to remove anything you've been infected with.

I'm wondering how some people wind up with these viruses. I've had maybe three viruses in the ten years I've been online, only one of which actually took hold. All of them were when I was using Windows, of course. Even so, by keeping my antivirus software current, I had almost no problems.

It seems to me that a lot of people run into trouble when they use their computers to go into "shady neighborhoods", so to speak. If you visit porn sites, pirate sites, that sort of thing, you are leaving the well-lit streets and beginning to skulk around in the shadows. You increase the chances of picking up something more than you bargained for. Even if you never break any laws, the porn industry isn't known for its upright citizens.

If you're using Windows, make sure your antivirus and anti-malware software is up to date and effective. Make sure it's *running*. Some viruses kill the programs; and sometimes the antivirus programs themselves get a little buggy and don't work properly. Do regular virus scans. Run a complete scan at least once a week, preferably starting it before you go to bed and letting it run all night if need be. If your computer starts acting weird, don't ignore it. Check it out, make sure you aren't infected, because once you are infected, anything can happen.

And avoid pirated stuff. You're just asking for trouble, and when it happens, you've got nowhere to turn. It's like buying a stolen cell phone and having the battery catch fire. What are you going to do, complain to the police?

yeah this is true, a friend was searching for songs on my computer that she downloaded using Frostwire,she said to me, can i put this on my phone,i looked up and on my large LCD screen was 2 guys going for it.i said were did you find that,here's another one, there in the Frostwire downloads folder she said,i was lucky they weren't child photos but it was a bit embarrassing,i showed them the date they were created, and it was the same time she was downloading on that day.which cleared me.but it must be hard trying to prove that you haven't done it,my friends didn't believe me until i checked the date with them.

Originally posted by zaiger
So if this happens to you or someone you know just call the cops and you will be fine.

That's awful advice. A policeman is NOT your friend, if you called the police and said "there's child pornography on my computer and I don't know how it got there" you will absolutely be arrested and prosecuted for possession of child pornography.

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
It's your responsibility to know what's in your car, your home or your computer. Telling the police that the porn files on your computer arn't yours is akin to telling your teacher the dog ate your homework or telling you....

[edit on 9-11-2009 by verylowfrequency]

Yeah sounds fine in principal. The sheer amount of HD space and amount of files however makes that totally impossible. There is no responsibility issue, even the most honest and responsible person cannot possibly know all the files on the HD. Just to make it even more impossible they can change all the time in milliseconds.

Originally posted by psychederic
If you really don't want to fear about this : use a system that will never need antivirus.

Linux, ubuntu is quite simple for human being. Or a mac if appearances are impotant, and if a luxurious gadget help you in your self estime.

*nix systems may not be vournable to viruses but hackers on the other hand like them nixes. Apple I'm not sure about, I have no interest or experience with those.

This is pretty damn bad. Really damn bad.

Ok, now some of you (I'm gonna assume it's been brought up) have mentioned that both child porn and adult porn are disgusting. Uh, well, adult porn is pretty damn good. It's legal too. Child porn, however, isn't.

Besides which, the females that cry in adult porno, well, uh...Maybe if society wasn't obsessed with big schlongs, perhaps she wouldn't have to be in lots of pain by being penetrated by a whopper of a trout.

Boy, this is awkward. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't get rid of adult porn. Porn is for sad, lonely and miserable gits. WELL I HAPPEN TO BE ONE!

This is disgusting... Child-porn has got to be the most vile pukish garbage ever conceived by humankind, its practically in the same group of evil as fecal-fetishes, and animal-rape. Absolutely heinous, and the main question is WHO and WHY and HOW are these sites even remaining on the internet since theyre so sick? Who are these sick F----s that are running this sh-- and putting it on the internet? Or perhaps, Law-enforcement keeps it on so they can track/monitor IP adresses that access these sick sites and hunt down the people who look at it... I really think law-enforcement should put FAKE sites on the internet in order to catch these sick freaks and get them off the streets and off the internet alltogether. Just a thought. Also, why are the punishments for these crimes so worthless anymore? The punishments for these crimes arent severe enough for these people, perhaps thats part of the problem. And as big of an offense as hacking and virus making is, and then combining child-porn with viruses as a threat towards regular people is just way too f-ing much, just anything to try and get away with what they know is wrong and to keep doing it. These pedophiles need wiped from the face of exsistance. I praize any Vigilantes who go on sprees killing pedophiles, because atleast THAT way, theyre being elliminated and stopped altogether. Anyone who defends a Pedophile, is probably secretly fantasising about harming children. Im cringing and shivering right now at the thought of this, i cant describe in words how sick this crap is. All i can say is WHY? WHY does this happen, WHY is it allowed to happen? How come the President hasnt addressed this problem yet, why hasnt a Sollution been made and enforced? whats stopping the law from doing its job? I dont understand. And how come all the vuris makers and hackers are so heinously evil and are against everything good? Why doesnt anyone who stands for the right thing make a few viruses of their own that infects the computers of these Evil disgusting Pedos and other Perverts. How come all the sick screwed up people are the only ones who seem to be 'smart' enough to make viruses anyway? Its all very strange, and a bit redundant. But it also says a lot. The Evil in this world is getting a stronger grip, and their power is rising. Laws are becoming increasingly stupid and it seams like the only thing it benefits are Criminals instead of the Victims. Something really needs to be done, and NOW!

It's all about the $$$. Hacking used to be a fun game played by bored teens in Europe, the U.S., etc. Now, it's all profit. Sex sells, even child pornography. Attacking from another computer is an old trick. That however, usually takes a trojan that allows it. A simple virus usually doesn't do the trick, and you need open ports and lack of a firewall to be vulnerable to that. But there are tons of unsecured home networks, and even company networks, so this still flourishes.

MP3 servers hosted on other computers, porn, software, those are the most common ones. Malware of course is the other big one, most originating from RU or CZ (Russia and Checkoslovakia), trying to trick you into buying their antivirus software to "fix" your problems.

And the issue isn't even shady sites. There are many reputable sites that don't thoroughly scan their banner adds. You can get infected via their site. Or get a virus which opens a security hole that then gives you a trojan, which then opens you to this sort of thing.

Biggest issue is lack of updates. People fail to get their MS security updates. It stops a big chunk of these issues. They ironically don't "trust" MS, and avoid their updates.

Believe it or Not: I was told back in 1996 that EVERY computer that logs on to the INTERNET is automatically downloaded with Child Porn. (you say, "HOW CAN THIS BE!")(quote from the movie DUNE,' Alia ', sister of Paul-Muadeeb)

Someone I know to have impecible Honesty, and has No reason to LIE (never has) to me, (A close relative who then worked for a MEGA-Corporation, who ran/built/maintained Top-Secret computer systems (manufacturing of Defense related stuff), told me that THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, owns a large stake (through a so-called private equity group) in a certain "internet router mechanism" that when any data set (8bit package) goes through this thing, a marker (3bit id.#) attaches itself to the packet.

This id IS one piece of a kiddie-porn photo! (you again say HCTB!)

This is how it works- you send file from point A to point B via internet, data gets broke down to 8bit packets gets id# from router gets to point B reassembles file but, leaves a LOT of id#'s on your HARDDRIVE!

Then, lets say you decide to run for public office, (ARE YOU NUTS!) FEDS get wind of it, (before you even file for candidacy) raid your house/business grab your comp's, (now here's the punch-line), they go into SEARCH, enter a previously unknown picture/photo extension code thingy(.jpeg, .mpg, etc...) and VOILA!, kiddie porn appears on YOUR hard-drive!

You get Question from feds,"Are you sure you still want to run for office?(-insert german accent here!) "

You say "SIEG-HEIL MINE FURHER!" and you go back to your Pathetic Existance and hope/pray you get to live out your life OUTSIDE of the proverbial "6x9" grey bar hotel room.

Well, that is what was told to me, I have no way of knowing if it is true, BUT I have never hooked any computer I have ever owned to the Internet, (up until 4 mos. ago, I previously only used the Inter. from my local library, but now my business is so integrated onto the net -ordering parts/supplies- I have been harrased by my suppliers to "ORDER ONLINE", "YOU GET DISCOUNT IF YOU ORDER ONLINE", "WE CUT DOWN ON WILL-CALL PERSONNEL TO SAVE YOU MONEY", and all that.)

So, now i'm on the net, GOD help us(me) ALL!

reply to post by mamabeth



I put my trust in God,not man,country,science or established religion.I support Israel and her people.No land for peace,not one inch!


But you are not shocked by land grabbers and genocide ? What a crazy world we live in

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
reply to post by mamabeth

 

I put my trust in God,not man,country,science or established religion.I support Israel and her people.No land for peace,not one inch!


But you are not shocked by land grabbers and genocide ? What a crazy world we live in

Ah ok!

reply to post by Keymaster1


That would be easy to dismiss as fiction. There are thousands of people who would've figured this out if it were true.

Quite curious indeed. I should've knocked the wood before I posted on this thread. Now all 3 of my computers are heavily infected with all kinds of trojans and viruses. I always thought that I was pretty good at keeping this clean but now I'm not so sure anymore. If only I could get my hands on some of these folks who make this stuff...