AP IMPACT: Framed for child porn — by a PC virus , page 2
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reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 02:31 PM by Raider of Truth
reply to post by alyosha1981



This nearly happened to me last year i only noticed it after 20gigs of my memory disappeared on it's own overnight, i sat here for 3 hours looking through all my folders and lo and behold in a folder marked "BCPSTASH" there were nearly 3000 photos of children or pre-teens, i immediately deleted and scanned my comp got rid of a virus and to be sure i did a system restore to 48 hours previous then scanned again and clared the first "scout" virus.

Never happened again

Just be careful if you have crap security like i did.
My brother however used the persons IP link and sent it to the police, i dunno if he or she was arrested but i'd love to imagine their face when their plan backfired.


reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 02:32 PM by heyo
Originally posted by Lolage
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
So let me get this right

If Child Porn is so bad what does that make the adult porn then?

from what i heard all the so called porn actors in adult industry are paid to have but in the videos the adults victims are been abused and heck in most cases they are crying in pain just like kids do in child porn,



Well what do you think?
if you ask me both porno are a crime

1) Why have you even watched child porn - you seem to know that all the children in it cry
2) You seem to have questionable tastes in adult porn
3) Adults can consent to be in porn, apparently high pay for not to much work, whereas a child would not be able to consent.


Do you work in porn?
You seem to be a little sensitive on the subject.
I'd like to know how you deduced that someone who claims not only child porn, but all porn, to be distatsteful is in fact a pedophile.

There have been many shows on tv about childporn. You know, you get the poor fellow who has to deal with these criminals on the internet. His eyes are tearing up as he describes what happens to these children.

My impression is that they're definately not laughing.

I guess what i'm saying is that I'm absolutely shocked that you can make that deduction based on what he/she said. You just called him/her a pedophile on a public forum based on absolutely nothing.



reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 03:09 PM by expat2368
reply to post by zaiger



Well from what I have seen in the news about pedofiles and child porn...the assumption of innocence goes out the window...along with reasonable doubt.

Fact is the laws and the enforcement of them need to change to be more producer/profiteer oriented... or a lot of innocent people will be humiliated and have their lives ruined.


reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 03:25 PM by zaiger
reply to post by expat2368



Well i see what you are saying but people do not know how the law works so they remain affraid of it.
In order for you to get arrested for child porn some thing need to happen. first you need to get caught with it, that is how it happens. That happens because the people who get arrested are sharing and tradding with others. Now for you to be arrested the DA needs to make a solid case against you. The people that get caught are people who have a collection, get caught tradding or download a file that has been tagged by law enforcement. Having a pic in your temp file directory is not a solid case as it could easily be explained by an unwanted pop up and with everyone using the computer these days everyone knows that you can at times have little choice over what pops up.
Like i said if you ever find anything like that on your computer call the police. If you try to delete and cover it up it will only look like you tried to hide it and if you get into trouble with something else down the line you will get screwed.
If you are innocent you have nothing to worry about. If you are worried you probably have something to hide so do not try to spread fear to the other members of the forum.


reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 03:41 PM by zaiger
reply to post by ANNED



Okay...
The first story. The guy was downloading music and kiddy porn on limewire and he is in no way innocent of what he did. 1,000 dollar fine as opposed to having to pay for all the music he probably downloaded, yeah i would take the 1,000 dollar fine also

the 2nd story. It was a mistake and the people were not even charge with anything

the fourth story in a nutshell out of 241 people 22 arrested and 18 plead guilty
In that 5th story the woman accused was let go and will be given a new trial with the new evidence of the spyware on her computer.

Im not sure what you are trying to prove besides innocent people are not being thrown in jail over this.

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reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 03:49 PM by verylowfrequency
It's your responsibility to know what's in your car, your home or your computer. Telling the police that the porn files on your computer arn't yours is akin to telling your teacher the dog ate your homework or telling you mom the drugs she found in your pants was your friends. If you can't manage to keep somebody else illegal items out of your property, then you probably deserve to get busted for your stupidity and I"m certain that's how the courts will see it.

Originally posted by zaiger
So if this happens to you or someone you know just call the cops and you will be fine.


That is about the most naive statement I've read in this thread.

Honey there's teen porn on the computer, better call 911 and let them sort it out.

If for any reason the police get a hold of your computer and find anything illegal - you are going to be charged and likely prosecuted.

Police will only look at your computer if you've been suspected or arrested for a crime and they would like additional evidence to make sure you get found guilty. Thus if your growing illegal plants in your home and the police bust in then take your computer looking for collaborating evidence about how to grow or sell your plants and then stumble upon some illegal pornography they will then change their focus because they can put this cockroach away for a more serious crime or just add it to the charges.

The police don't give a damn how the files got on your computer or who put them there. Once they have the evidence, the investigation is over. The idea that they are going to discover it was put there by a virus is completely inept.




[edit on 9-11-2009 by verylowfrequency]


reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 03:55 PM by dampnickers
Originally posted by yizzel
Originally posted by nahsik
wow so now a supposed pedophile who stores pictures such as this have an excuse by saying a computer virus placed it there.


Yeah I was thinking that too.

From the same
source the OP linked

An inspection for his defense revealed the laptop was severely infected. It was programmed to visit as many as 40 child porn sites per minute — an inhuman feat. While Fiola and his wife were out to dinner one night, someone logged on to the computer and porn flowed in for an hour and a half.


I'd like to know how these sites stay up and operational.

Edit: typo

[edit on 9-11-2009 by yizzel]



It's a sure fire bet that these sites stay up and operational, because someone in the upper echelons of society has a vested interest in them remaining operational.

There's a lot of money to be made from the child sex industry. I recall reading somewhere that the global trade in children and the abuse of children runs into the billions of dollars - sick I know, but a fact nonetheless.

It really would not surprise me if there were more than a few people in the governments of this world involved in the operation or even owners of these sick websites....

I wonder if this tactic has ever been used to frame totally innocent people in the past? Perhaps people that have the ability to uncover corruption, etc in the governments of this world.... Just a thought.



reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 03:59 PM by zaiger
reply to post by verylowfrequency



If you called the police and told them that someone uploaded something illegal on your computer the computer would show exactly that, you would be safe. If you have other illegal things on your computer then yeah you should be affraid.


reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 04:13 PM by verylowfrequency
reply to post by zaiger



You should never ever call the police unless you are unable to handle the situation, need immediate assistance or report a crime for the purposes of filing an insurance claim.

If you're unable to restore your own computer or erase files you'd be better off calling a computer expert than the police. The police need to charge somebody if there is a crime and if they're too inept or unwilling to see that the files were placed there by somebody else - they will have no choice but to charge the owner of the computer ... Period.



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