Hum...I hate to blast your airborne bubble but running off to Europe want help you much. That part of the world is as f**k-up as this nation of idiots. This is a global issue of no return but only forward into a world of insane insanity.

NO PLACE TO HIDE AND NO PLACE TO RUN!!!......Only fools of which their are many will attempt this laughable solution maybe finding something even worse. My humble advice.....stay put and just take it up the a** along with the rest of us.

Originally posted by dragonsmusic

I don't understand what I'm supposed to ask the vets.
And I was never making any race related point about slavery.
Just that America being founded on it along with several other atrocities was not a very good begining.

EVERY nation was founded the same way, but some people forget this fact very fast.

I lived in Europe for 9 almost 10 years, and I saw discrimination towards non-Europeans, even when half of my family is from Europe, and my great-grandfather on my mother's side is from Ayo De Vidriales, in northern Zamora, meanwhile on my father's side they hail from Tenerife, in the canary island.

Even then i saw discrimination, because i was born in Cuba. Some of the adults are not that closed minded, and although there are, or were good things in Spain, and Portugal, some of which I miss, I will not move back there for any reason.

Fleeing is not going to solve anything, more so because other countries are going through the same, or worse than what the United States has been going through.

A global One World Socialist government is the goal, and there is nowhere you can hide from it.

BTW, Spain is in a lot worse shape than the United States right now. Job related, and economically related.


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If I were going to leave the US, I'd leave for a place filled with extremely beautiful women. Unfortunately, that place doesn't exist, at least not on this planet.

Life just sucks in general really. Hopefully, it's really all a temporary contract.

Dont go to the UK because its just as bad.

Nice idealistic dream - I hope it works for you. To each his/her own I say.

Just keep in mind that you should learn to fake a good local accent wherever you go, and to try to at least look like you aren't an American everywhere you find yourself.

Many will say "Oh we love Americans, just not their government". Yeah. Ok. I am sure that's true in some cases, but just take a look around at some of what people spew out (even on this thread), and you will see there are more American haters in the world than most would like to believe. And I only say that due to the sheer numbers of "the rest of the world" in comparison to those native to the U.S. Are we a good nation? I don't know: Is there any such thing as "good"?

But, I digress.

Find nice people over there, I am sure there are many. Stick close to them and heed their advice.

Good luck, we'll be here (in some form) if you want to come back.

I don't understand. All i can say is that you are EXTREMELY ungrateful for what you have. you dream of riding around Europe, which through your eyes should be the essence of evil considering all the wars and conflicts of ideologies. you dream of playing guitar in the countryside. that is 100% american.
America is one of best, if not the best country to it's citizens. when you're in Europe, travel east, and you'll beg to go back to America. I hope you go crawling back realizing that you have made a huge mistake. think of what you have. maybe you'll get your head straight even before you leave.
There is no place on earth, definitely not Europe that has not defied democracy, or a place that was not offensive to it's locals, or a place where people were mistreated. America is leading the world forward with everything concerning human rights and quality of living.

I'm am most grateful to have one of my two citizenships in America.
Now go stand in the corner and think about what you said.

well,,,its not perfect here,,,but the USA is awsome,,,

all countries have problems,,,,uk,france,,italy,,etc...

maybe you should tell us what countries are so cozy and perfect???

maybe you should go to Iran or north korea and sing for them,,,

Maybe you should study history more,,,your romance studies seem silly and you going to europe to sing songs and live happily ever after is silly..

I am not bashing your dreams but its the way your thread is stated which is vague and silly to the point of stupidity,,,

Theres people here who cant get their butts here to the US fast enuff and even risk their lives,,,

The other countries have horrible news stories such as ours,,,

maybe instead of a singer you should get a job and work for imigration and council people to convince them not to come here,,,

the world has always been a scary place with so many wronges...yet we could empty the population of many countries if we gave them all visas here,,,

please do tell ,,,,keep us informed on your endevor/quest....

got my fingers crossed for you......

another good title thread would be "ashamed unemployed drummer leaving country"





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