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Topic started on 8-11-2009 @ 07:03 PM by TrainDispatcher
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By Stephen C. Webster
Sunday, November 8th, 2009 -- 7:28 pm
RAWSTORY
The leader of the fifth-largest oil exporter in the world is warning his country's military and citizenry to prepare for war with Colombia and the
United States, according to published reports.
Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez issued his warning during a weekly radio address.
"Let's not waste a day on our main aim: to prepare for war and to help the people prepare for war, because it is everyone's responsibility," he
reportedly said.
Chavez has repeatedly voiced deep fears of US encroachment in the region.
"Students, revolutionaries, workers, women: all are ready to defend this sacred homeland called Venezuela," he continued, adding that the best way
to "avoid war is to prepare for it".
Relations between the neighbours were frozen in July after Colombia announced an agreement to lease the use of military bases to the United States.
"Venezuela and Colombia share a 1,375-mile (2,200-km) border and a volatile history," Reuters noted. "After both were freed from the Spanish by
Venezuelan liberator Simon Bolivar in the 19th century, the two countries were the center of a short-lived nation known as Gran Colombia that also
included Ecuador and Panama."
The wire service continued: "Colombia's four-decade-old guerrilla conflict has for years spilled over the Venezuelan border, where kidnappings,
contraband and drug trafficking are common. Chavez's ideological closeness to Colombian FARC Marxist rebels has led Washington and Bogota to accuse
him of supporting the guerrillas. Chavez denies providing arms or logistical support to the rebels."
Chavez has in turn accused the Colombian military of making illegal, provocative incursions into Venezuela.
"Colombian paramilitaries operating illegally in Venezuela’s oil-rich border regions, together with the right-wing opposition in Venezuela, are the
advance guard of imperialist plans to defeat the Bolivarian revolution," socialist publication Green Left opined.
The concern is not unfounded. A recent Al Jazeera report which centered on a Colombian hitman in Venezuelan custody alleged that Chavez's main
political opponent in the country, Manuel Rosales, had offered a $25 million bounty to anyone who could kill the socialist leader.
Additionally, some American troops will soon find themselves stationed at military bases scattered across Colombia with a mission to use advanced
Predator drone technology to aid in fighting the drug trade and to combat terrorism. When the arrangement was announced in August, Chavez bristled
then too, telling reporters that "the winds of war [are] beginning to blow."
Bloomberg News added: "The U.S. agreement with Colombia is part of an effort to 'strengthen and increase ties with countries in the region,' Robin
Holzhauer, spokeswoman for the U.S. Embassy in Caracas, said by telephone. 'We’ve done that with governments who want to have partnerships with
us.' Colombia has said the agreement would help combat drug trafficking."
During the summer of 2009, Venezuela bought billions of dollars’ worth of sophisticated fighter jets and tanks from its military ally Russia.
Venezuela’s closest allies, Ecuador and Bolivia, back that stance.
“As long as there are uniformed foreigners in a South American country, it’s difficult for us to think there can be peace,” Bolivian President
Evo Morales reportedly said in August.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 07:05 PM by TrainDispatcher
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EXAMINER
Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez issues warning to U.S. and ‘Mr. Obama’
On Sunday, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez ordered his military forces to be ready for an armed conflict and issued a warning to the U.S. and
Columbia.
Tensions have been rising between Venezuela and Columbia due to a series of murders and shootings in border areas. Chavez said if a war were to break
out, it could “…extend throughout the whole continent.”
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 07:43 PM by HotSauce
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I say bring it on Hugo. We would slap Venezuela so hard they would wake up in tne 18th century. Well maybe not since his buddy Obama is running the
show these days. I would suppose to Marxists would ply nice together, and we know how Obama likes to be submissive when it comes to world
politics.
[edit on 8-11-2009 by HotSauce]
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:00 PM by DINSTAAR
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Chavez is a moron. I hope he gets what he deserves and his people revolt.
Hopefully this will make it clear to the American people that we do not have an anti-war party. Obama is as much as a warmonger as Bush.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:04 PM by jam321
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Venezuela's economy must really be struggling and Chavez is hoping a little patriotism may preoccupy the people elsewhere.
I really doubt the people want to go to war and see their country destroyed because of Hugo's ego.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:18 PM by beebs
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I wish this type of thing wasn't happening. It seems like TPTB are ramping up the fear and war hype/propaganda.
I do not consider the provacateurs of war family, nor of my species.
Those lacking humanity are not humans.
I should much rather the instigators are reptilian shape shifters, than our own kind.
With all the speculation about the New World Order, and bloodlines, I'm starting to actually wonder what to do...
Provoke Venezuela, provoke Iran, starve Africa, make humans corporate slaves, CIA drug smuggling, military aiding opium crops, mind controlling, RFID
chips...
Let us ruthlessly and without hesitation denounce these foul beings as our leaders, we have no more need for those that try to construct our fates.
Peace and Cooperation are not only ethically moral and beneficial to society and culture, they are biological means for our species' evolution.
Let us not fall prey to the idiocy of letting someone engineer our demise: a new wave of the truth movement must start now.
If Truth is not a sufficient reason, then our children must certainly count.
ATS is our gathering place, but the world is the stage.
Here is our headquarters, but the people on the streets are our objective - our mission.
We must transfer the ideals and motivation from this site, to the real world.
Let these words inspire one, for then it will touch two, then four.
Let these words resonate, so that we may all flow as one uniform force.
We do not care for war. It is not our wish for our new reality.
We can no longer afford a ruthless few playing from the sleeve.
The game must not go unchecked anymore.
We are here, and we are the Karma Police.
No more war.
If you agree with this policy, then let it no longer be unimplemented.
Be the Change.
Thanks, ATS, for providing a free environment I can say this in. Lets make the streets free like we are here.
Sorry if that was a little intense, but things are getting intense - it only takes eyes to see.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:31 PM by sdcigarpig
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Ah the joys of sabre rattling and propeganda. Sides right now it is just one of many leaders that are barking loud cause they know that the US is
bogged down in Iraq, Afganistan, having to deal with Pakistan, North Korea and a few other leaders that are figuring now is the time to show a few
teeth and make a few statements. As long as we do not cross the boarder, or throw the first punch, it will pass.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:37 PM by Janky Red
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Well hopefully Dick Cheney will be the next president.
Then we are attacked by Cuba, with Mexican highjackers and then we can spread freedom in Venezuela by destroying their WMD -
Good luck Spewgo - they sell coffins at walmart now!
[edit on 8-11-2009 by Janky Red]
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:39 PM by obamalivechat
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id fight chavez... 1v1 bare knuckle lets go...
Anyways I hope we don't get involved in this... Is the US still trying to overthrow him... what's the deal?
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:40 PM by Monts
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I am so sick of all this provocation and fear mongering. The US government is as much to blame as Chavez. The US government has been constantly poking
around in other countries affairs when they have no buisness doing so, and Chavez is just an attentions seeker.
War is so unbelievably immature, it is hard to find any kind of analogy to describe it. A playground brawl over who is "it" may come close, but at
least in that situation the people who have a beef with eachother fight for themselves. In war, thousands and millions die because of a few people and
their arrogance. Young, innoncent lives are sacrificing themselves while the almighty leaders sit comfy in their mansions.
Makes me sick.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:40 PM by SLAYER69
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reply to post by jam321
Venezuela deploys 15,000 more troops to border with Colombia
CARACAS, Nov. 5 (Xinhua) -- Venezuela announced Thursday a supplementary deployment of more than 15,000 agents of the National Guard to six border
states amid alleged invasion of Colombian irregular groups.
The troops would be deployed to the southern states of Amazonas, Apure and Bolivar, and to the southwestern states of Barinas, Tachira and Zuila,
Venezuelan Vice President and Defense Minister Ramon Carrizalez told the press on Thursday.
The deployment, called "Sentinel Operation," aimed to strike illegal mining and combat the presence of irregular groups in the Venezuelan
territory.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:41 PM by Reading
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Great more war. just what this planet needs.
Its strange the other day i was thinking i was getting bored of hearing about all the deaths of young men in iraq/afghanistan, we need a new more
exciting war i say
/epic sarcasm
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 08:48 PM by jam321
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reply to post by SLAYER69
This seems to be a follow up to the thread you posted not so long ago.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Chavez should be careful about what he wishes. Might be more than he can bite off.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 09:16 PM by TheCoffinman
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i think its alittle premature to think wed be slapping anybody but ourselves with more debt and a 3rd war... were stretched thin now as it is. a 3rd
war with venezuela would be disasterous for us because it would be unsustainable... we would not win...
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 09:28 PM by born yesterday
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reply to post by HotSauce
hugo chavez is the good guy and so is iran. can't you see what is happening here? are you blind? the pope and his international banking groups are
always trying to take over the entire world. they will fail.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 09:37 PM by Vitchilo
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The deployment, called "Sentinel Operation," aimed to strike illegal mining and combat the presence of irregular groups in the Venezuelan territory.
Like this is any different than Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan or what the US should be doing...PROTECTING THEIR BORDERS.
No big deal.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 09:42 PM by Skittle
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Originally posted by HotSauce
I say bring it on Hugo. We would slap Venezuela so hard they would wake up in tne 18th century. Well maybe not since his buddy Obama is running the
show these days. I would suppose to Marxists would ply nice together, and we know how Obama likes to be submissive when it comes to world
politics.
[edit on 8-11-2009 by HotSauce]
You going to be standing on the frontline?
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 09:55 PM by HotSauce
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Originally posted by Skittle
Originally posted by HotSauce
I say bring it on Hugo. We would slap Venezuela so hard they would wake up in tne 18th century. Well maybe not since his buddy Obama is running the
show these days. I would suppose to Marxists would ply nice together, and we know how Obama likes to be submissive when it comes to world
politics.
[edit on 8-11-2009 by HotSauce]
You going to be standing on the frontline?
Gladly..
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 10:21 PM by grantbeed
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it seems to me that the US is trying to push Chavez into making rash decisions. Witht the US now using Colombias bases, it will certainly push
Chavez's buttons.
Looks like he is falling into the trap.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 10:45 PM by Brsn90
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Let's look what's happening in the world.
-We have a bill that says you have to pay for health care.
-Most people believe we are going to have a double dip recession.
-Chavez saying prepare for war with Columbia and the USA?
(A war, we've been warned about, for awhile!)
There's no way they could reinstate the draft..?
But if you put the pieces together, could they almost force people to join the military? If so many people couldn't afford to live? Feed the war
machine or go to jail?
(Just speculating on how the USA could get 3 1/2 wars with people's support.)
[edit on 8-11-2009 by Brsn90]
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