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reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 05:42 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Abductions being connected to sleep-paralysis: is that a widespread misconception?


I don’t think that alone is a widespread misconception, it is one of several explanations altogether.

The abduction phenomenon has garnered substantial attention from mainstream scientists and mental health professionals, who overwhelmingly doubt that the phenomenon occurs literally as reported and who have proposed a variety of alternate explanations, including
"[d]eception, suggestibility (fantasy-proneness, hypnotizability, false-memory syndrome), personality, sleep phenomena, psychopathology, psychodynamics [and] environmental factors."[4]


en.wikipedia.org...

Here is for instance John Mack’s view.



Neurophysiological explanations include sleep paralysis and temporal lobe epilepsy (Spanos et al. 1993; Persinger 1992; Blackmore 1994), but researchers exploring these possibilities have either failed to find such pathology among abduction experiencers or have chosen to overlook important aspects of the phenomenon.

For example, many abduction experiences occur under conditions that do not appear to be associated with sleep.

Second, abduction experiences are often corroborated by independent UFO sightings or physical evidence. Third, neurophysiological explanations do not account for hyperarousal and anxiety triggered by certain events or images symbolically linked to abduction. With the integration of the specific abduction-related traumatic experience, these reactions sometimes resolve, as predicted by theories of post traumatic stress disorder.


www.ufoevidence.org...

Originally posted by Skyfloating
or is it so rare that hardly any ATS-Threads could be found on it?


I never looked earlier for ATS-threads about that, but I did a search and found some.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Is it not a widespread misconception that there are all kinds of beings, government officials, ETs coming into ones bedroom at night in physical?


For what I know about it no, there are many kinds of beings and ETs coming into ones bedroom at night in physical?
There are however more and more indications that give the strong impression that in some cases government/military officials are definitely involved.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

As for your other stuff: I see that there is also something physical, touchable going on. What I want to know whether its connected to the Greys or not.


There is much information that implies that Greys are involved.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Are cattle-mulilations, flying-saucers and grays really one and the same issue or are they seperate phenomena?


Cattle-mutilations and flying-saucers are no doubt one and the same issue, but which type of beings are involved in it is not known.
It could be several where under the Greys, and it looks as if there are even different type of greys.

Part 2: 1980 Animal Mutilation High Strangeness Files © 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe

Before he died, Col. Corso talked to me in private about the many classified documents he had seen in Washington, D. C., when he returned from his World War II assignment in Italy. He told me that he had read with his own eyes highly classified reports dated as early as 1951 about animals found in several parts of the world with bloodless excisions and no tracks around them, not even the dead animal's own tracks, implying the mutilated animal had been dropped to the ground from the air. Col. Corso said classified government reports he read specified that the animal mutilators were “extraterrestrial biological entities.”




U. S. Army Lt. Col. Philip J. Corso with Linda Moulton Howe at
50th anniversary event in Roswell, New Mexico, July 4, 1997.

Animal mutilations was such a sensitive and classified subject, Col. Corso told me, because the United States government was scared that if the public knew Something from outer space was able to pick up heavy animals in beams of light, remove tissue and liquids with instruments that cut with light and perhaps sound frequencies, then return the animals dead and mutilated to pastures - Americans, and the world, would panic. Also, the advanced technologies needed to be kept out of the hands of human enemies and developed and patented by American companies.




reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:30 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by spacevisitor



I starred your post because its helpful in seeing the big picture.

Just wanted to add that "what are all these people doing in my bedroom" was meant as a joke.

I think its unlikely that ETs and U.S. Gov. officials would, in 95% of the time, choose bedrooms as the appropriate meeting place

And THATS why I think a large part of the Gray-Abduction scenarios are astral...

...and why cattle mutilations and saucers might be part of something else...another ET species perhaps.


reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:48 AM by Tamale_214
reply to post by Skyfloating


Originally posted by skyfloating
Abducitons being connected to sleep-paralysis: Is that a widespread misconception or is it so rare that hardly any ATS-Threads could be found on it?


I think that abductions occurring in conjunction with sleep paralysis is VERY common but that the vast majority of those experiencers have no memory or disregard them as a dream because they are often "made" to seem like a dream--

I have had many conscious "sleep paralysis" experiences over the past 10 months, some of which seemed very violent and of intrinsically malevolent intent like someone forcing me down with all of their strength. Others have been very gentle and calming like a feather pressing down on me. The latter experiences always were accompanied by flashes of intuition or insight and the former always accompanied by intense fear, anger and dread.



reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:57 AM by Unity_99
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But only for that light ship. That was a very beautiful and special craft. During the contact which was unusual, and in the end I thought was possibly a test, the words cultural exchange and Sirian Council was used.


reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 09:57 PM by Tamale_214
reply to post by DrainMaster



Well DrainMaster, that was an interesting comment, care to enlighten the rest of us a tiny bit?
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