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posted on Nov, 8 2009 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by dnvrliz
MOSHE is now in PATTON hospital in CA.
Waiting for a trial .

www.dmh.ca.gov...

CHECK IT OUT..........

Is there a link about him being in Patton? That's interesting. I live about 20 minutes from there and used to work at the Indian casino next to it.




posted on Nov, 8 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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If you're an NWO mega-villian and you want to kill back the human population to a more sustainable level then it seems to me that the introduction of a humanly active pathogen ito the world is a really stupid move. These viruses can mutate rather quickly so even if you and your loved ones have been innoculated with it's anti-virus you could still fall victim to a mutated strain of the bug. No. I think the best way to "cull the herd", so to speak, would be the introduction of an engineered blight or two in some crucial crops like rice, corn or wheat. Millions would wind up starving and chaos would result around the world ,but, as a fabulously wealthy and completely immoral person, you know that you would always be able to purchase food, no matter how expensive it got to be. Yes, I think a veggie plague would be a much wiser course for NWO types or even the hidden government creeps that troll under the surface of current events.

To make it plain, I'm rather dubious about these scare stories concerning the Swine Flu and the devilish vaccines that are meant to kill rather than cure. Like I said above, there would be no way for the masterminds behind the manufactured pandemic to be certain that they will not ultimately fall victim to it. One thing I am sure of, however, is that we have reached a point in human history where it is absolutely clear that we can no longer continue to reproduce in the fashion that we are accustomed to. We are rapidly approaching 8 billion people on this planet. A few years back it was estimated that we add a new city of a million people to this planet every five days. No doubt that the number of days has probably dropped to 4 by now. And, make no mistake, it is sheer number of human entities upon this planet, not striving for a subsistance living but struggling for a modern lifestyle, that is having a now noticeable effect on our environmental integrity. Governments and big corporations are spending milions to convince us that all we need to do is by hybrid cars and use enregy efficient lightbulbs to cut our "Carbon Footprint" in half, but that is total bu****it. As soon as your population doubles, and it's doubling at a faster rate al the time, you're right back where you started.

Global Warming, groundwater pollution, topsoil depletion, air pollution, etc., and the list goes on and on, all of these less than desireable complications are not simply due to people driving gas-driven cars and the like. They are the result of way too many people driving gas driven cars and consuming meat and heating their large homes and on and on. It isn't what we do that is killing the Earth, it's how many of us are doing it all at once. That's the fly in the ointment!

So basically, my thought is that if an average guy like me can figure this out, then the Big Governments of the planet have also figured it out too. There is no doubt in my mind that they are all completely aware of the negative impact that our insanely expanding population is having on our planet and the environment that sustains us. The only question in my mind is will they take steps to drastically deplete the human population to avoid total disaster, or are they so loathe to commit massive genocide on humanity that they shrink away from being that incredibly ruthless, not to mention souless. Either way there is no happy ending to this mess.

China's efforts to regulate their population growth were a spectacular failure. I'm sure that this has not escaped the notice of them that's in charge. Will the folks in charge really take inhuman steps to deplete the human numbers or will they take the easy way out and let nature take her course? Your guess is as good as mine. One thing I'm sure of is that this population growth cannot continue for very much longer. either we'll kill ourselves or nature will.



posted on Nov, 8 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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Isn't that the voice of this Bill Deagle?


Trash this interview



posted on Nov, 8 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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To the poster who said that a bio-engineered virus and weaponized vaccine makes no sense, I hope you're right. I hope this plan, if it indeed exists as the evidence seems to show, backfires in their face. I'm hoping that James Bond or Ninjas or Sam Fisher will destroy this plan and bring the guilty parties to court (smiles). Seriously, something's got to happen to thwart it. If this goes through, then we don't mean anything. Nothing we have ever done means anything. I simply can't believe that. I count for something, and so does every person in the world.

Benjamin Fulford, right about now would be an excellent time for your ninjas to show up.


[edit on 10/26/2009 by nethawk]



posted on Nov, 8 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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This is all very strange. If you do a search for the guys name, Joseph Moshe; you'll get the typical propaganda comments accusing him of being a "right-wing anti-semite" on HP(Isn't Moshe a jewish name? Not to mention he's an Israeli national). But you'll also find this, a preview profile on a biomed research website that seems to track the exact places this person would go. I can't tell when it was created since it's a preview, but it looks like the same person. I also found this, this, this, and this. All talking about cases of pneumonic plague outbreaks in China in September, quarantining an entire village and killing people off. Scary stuff indeed.



posted on Nov, 8 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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I remember seeing this on the news. I was so confused as to what was REALLY going on at the time. It all makes sense now. Poor guy was trying to do the right thing... My heart is broken for him..



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by ChemBreather
 


seems like the pharma industry has their hands in the cookie jar, and Rockefeller is having his goal realized of depopulation.... at least an attempt to do so.

Interesting times we live in.


I just posted a thread about this very thing (big pharma and the elite).
Here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by 222938
This is all very strange. If you do a search for the guys name, Joseph Moshe; you'll get the typical propaganda comments accusing him of being a "right-wing anti-semite" on HP(Isn't Moshe a jewish name? Not to mention he's an Israeli national). But you'll also find this, a preview profile on a biomed research website that seems to track the exact places this person would go. I can't tell when it was created since it's a preview, but it looks like the same person. I also found this, this, this, and this. All talking about cases of pneumonic plague outbreaks in China in September, quarantining an entire village and killing people off. Scary stuff indeed.



He's a real biochemist. Supposedly a Mossad agent as well (ex-mossad, maybe). You can google his name and get a list of the books he has published on biochemistry.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by ugie1028

seems like the pharma industry has their hands in the cookie jar, and Rockefeller is having his goal realized of depopulation.... at least an attempt to do so.

Interesting times we live in.


Excuse me if my question is stupid, but can someone explain what's the point of the elites to depopulate the western coutries with a designed virus and/or vaccine ?

Because in case you didn't noticed, the flu hits mainly the northern hemisphere, and the vaccine is reserved for the rich countries who can afford it.

So let's say I'm an elite. I have this plan of killing the rich populations from the most developped countries, my workforce, my consumers, my source of income, but on the other hand leaving all those 3rd world countries crowded with people (because I don't see many ethiopians getting the flu or the vaccine).

What for ? I will kill only a 5th of the world population, the population I actually control, and need to make my global economy work. Leaving empty countries at the mercy of the neigbours from the south ?


Seriously guys, the vaccine depopulation conspiracy is a little too much. Sure they rushed the vaccine and hyped it to make tons of money. But to kill people ? To kill the western armies, workforces, wealth ?

That would be the elites stupidest move.

The depopulation agenda already started : as planned it is targeting the poorest (and more crowded) countries of the world. It doesn't need a killer virus or vaccine. The four knights of the Apocalypse are already taking care of this :

Globalisation
War
Famine
Death.


So my question again ? Why would the elites engineer a virus and/or vaccine to kill only THE RICHEST countries of this world ? The countries they live in ?



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 03:49 AM
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In response to this thread I thought it would be a good idea to start one on how to counter the 1918 flu with the possibility of this being true. Knowledge found in it should also be useful against other common flu's and colds.

1918 Plague Remedies and Knowledge

[edit on 9-11-2009 by Scarcer]



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 04:34 AM
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I just read on an organic health website that several pregnant women across the nation are reporting miscarriages after getting the H1N1 vaccine. I have not heard anything about this on the MSM.

www.notanotherconspiracy.com...



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 04:38 AM
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A famine would be much less expensive to engineer but the resulting deaths would be spread over a much longer time frame and would deplete most food reserves in the process. A virus/bacteria would be quicker but as you pointed out may take out some that were not intented.

Assuming depopulation is the design then the people with this goal are extremely evil. In that case wouldn't it be more entertaining for them to watch millions cough and choke on their own fluids and die quickly than to watch them slowly wither away? I don't want to think there are people this evil but I see small examples every day so I know it is possible.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 04:49 AM
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So my question again ? Why would the elites engineer a virus and/or vaccine to kill only THE RICHEST countries of this world ? The countries they live in ?


There is such a thing as airplanes to airlift these Elites out of the danger zones to a safe destination when it becomes too dangerous.

Why not? If geography is the reason, then as I've just highlighted, geography can be changed in a few hours if needs be.

And as someone has already mentioned, they can use cheap labour from the 3rd world countries to do the same job we'd do for 1/10 of the cost.

As has been said, they are power and money mad. So the above would definately be figuring in their thinking.

We've become too expensive and expect too high a standard of living.

Of course, if I had my way, the Elite would cop the virus and perish.



[edit on 9-11-2009 by Flighty]



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by SpaceGoatsFarts

Originally posted by ugie1028

seems like the pharma industry has their hands in the cookie jar, and Rockefeller is having his goal realized of depopulation.... at least an attempt to do so.

Interesting times we live in.


Excuse me if my question is stupid, but can someone explain what's the point of the elites to depopulate the western coutries with a designed virus and/or vaccine ?

Because in case you didn't noticed, the flu hits mainly the northern hemisphere, and the vaccine is reserved for the rich countries who can afford it.

So let's say I'm an elite. I have this plan of killing the rich populations from the most developped countries, my workforce, my consumers, my source of income, but on the other hand leaving all those 3rd world countries crowded with people (because I don't see many ethiopians getting the flu or the vaccine).

What for ? I will kill only a 5th of the world population, the population I actually control, and need to make my global economy work. Leaving empty countries at the mercy of the neigbours from the south ?


Seriously guys, the vaccine depopulation conspiracy is a little too much. Sure they rushed the vaccine and hyped it to make tons of money. But to kill people ? To kill the western armies, workforces, wealth ?

That would be the elites stupidest move.

The depopulation agenda already started : as planned it is targeting the poorest (and more crowded) countries of the world. It doesn't need a killer virus or vaccine. The four knights of the Apocalypse are already taking care of this :

Globalisation
War
Famine
Death.


So my question again ? Why would the elites engineer a virus and/or vaccine to kill only THE RICHEST countries of this world ? The countries they live in ?


It does not matter whether or not there is a group of people who want to perform mass genocide. History has proven to us that such groups have existed and have performed genocide, so discussion on whether they could exist or not is vague, pointless and completely unimportant.

The problem is that certain things have happened in the past several years pointing towards failed attempts of intentional mass genocide - the chances that those things are simply a set of unfortunate events are very small so to say. Recent actions performed by some pharma companies and WHO are extremely suspicious to very large number of (pretty educated) people, which is why there is a trend of these depopulation theories. Especially since those suspicious activities match with some depopulation conspiracy theories which are present in recent times on alternative media.

Lastly, if you seek a complete summary of events surrounding 'suspicious activities' you are free to check material offered by Teresa Forcades.

I have no idea if someone is enforcing some kind of depopulation agenda as we speak, but I wouldn't be as surprised if that is the case. We had lots of lunatics in our history and we probably still have some now.

Just to add, some people even on this board actually support depopulation. People don't do everything just for profit, some do things for more divine purpose - for example: for purifying our planet against the evil which is human beings. Lately mental illnesses have greatly expanded and rich & powerful are not immune from depression. At the end, worst things come from the best intentions.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by SassyCat]



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 05:04 AM
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If the swine flu, apparently attacks with a cytokin storm which makes a strong immune system attack itself, then why are they vaccinating all of the people with low immune systems who won't beharmed by this first????

Why,if they were really out to SAVE our butts, wouldn't they give the vaccines to the strong and healthy who are supposedly the ones at risk??



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by dneudecker

Originally posted by dnvrliz
MOSHE is now in PATTON hospital in CA.
Waiting for a trial .

www.dmh.ca.gov...

CHECK IT OUT..........

Is there a link about him being in Patton? That's interesting. I live about 20 minutes from there and used to work at the Indian casino next to it.


I cant find the article I read about him being in PATTON but here is a site with a little more info on him.
labvirus.wordpress.com...

[edit on 9-11-2009 by dnvrliz]



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 05:45 AM
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Never mind taking them to court, they probably own the courts.

If they do/did what we suspect they have, they don't deserve a trial...if you get my drift.

If it's the majority against the few, i say the majority should wipe away their stain on our planet, and any others that go along with them.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 06:07 AM
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Logically, it seems to make sense to give it to the immunodeficient first, and the healthy last.

Until you realise that the adjuvants are designed to cause a hyper immune response and ultimately kill you via your own immune response going bananas.

The people with compromised immune systems, would (if this scenario is correct) actually stand a BETTER chance of surviving this virus, unless of course, their flagging immune response is somehow driven through the roof, then the cytokine effect will be able to do it's intended work.

Healthy people, would be second in the queue for upping the immune response to deadly levels, as they may die anyway with the immune response action.

Ultimately, this is just speculation..most of us don't really know for sure one way or the other what the intentions are.

WE DO know though that there are a lot of raggedy ends and unhappy coincidences that make this whole affair stink to high heaven!

IF this whole seedy business was straight up, and not very very dodgy, we would not be seeing all the high weirdness that has been associated with the various Big Pharma organisations.

With the WHO issuing obviously 'sexed up' pandemic declarations..

Pharma 'viral contamination accidents' first in Eastern Europe (live bird flu virus sent as a vaccine for seasonal flu by BAXTER!!!), in central Europe (LIVE 'experimental' virus released onto a packed rush hour commuter train from a supposedly broken vial by...BAXTER!!!).

Most of the worlds experts claiming this is bio-engineered virus..

The compulsory element in legislation (forcing people to take the vaccine).

The 'get out of jail free cards' given by governments to Big Pharma that absolves them from all financial and criminal/legal culpability WHEN people die or get injured from anything remotely connected to the vaccine, including accidents in administering the shot.

The 'elites' seemingly being given one type of vaccine, without the immune bolstering components, or adjuvants and the public being given the one WITH the immune adjuvants..

The list goes on and on, and most of us, who are following this closely, know all of this already.

Personally i think the HPV vaccine is a tie in along the line too..in terms of reducing the fertility of young girls and teenagers.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 08:46 AM
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I'm writing with my phone. My computer has been hacked otherwise I would provide a link to an EFECTIVE REMEDY for avian flu. Please google "ascorbic acid vitamin c treatment for avian flu 2007."
The paper explains the mechanism of how white blood cells use ascorbic acid to kill the virus.
A 70 kilo man must take 5 grams/day over the course of a day. The key is NO SUGAR diet and non-refined carbs. The insulin transport mechanism also transports AA. If you have too much glucose in your blood, your body will urinate the vitamin c and it will be wasted.
4 people in my family have caught the seasonal flu. I am the only person who didn't get it.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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