Maybe because he is to busy as president of the United States trying to keep the country afloat, to "honor" an event that happened in another country years ago...

I mean, the fall of the Berlin Wall was a historical event, but do you not think that perhaps the United States has more important concerns right now?

I personally think it is good that he is not allowing himself to become distracted by things that do not really matter as far as keeping our country afloat is concerned....

is not celebrating the fall of the berlin wall that big of a deal?

i didnt know people really even celebrated it until now. i mean i guess those who lived in berlin and such places at the time celebrated, but i didnt know it was really some huge deal.

arent there more important things at the moment than the wall falling a couple decades ago?

I think everybody should take in account that this can be a political move.If he did go to the ceremony, he will probably talk about the tyranny of soviet union. As some of you might know especially with this whole healthcare thing that he does have some socialist principles. The republicans will call him a hypocrite or say he's just a media whore. I don't know if this can be considered a political move or something else but I don't know if there is a more appropriate word. or else maybe everybody just forgot about the celebration

Don't blame the Obama, blame the puppet masters.

Why the event is not "just some historical event":

It marks the fall of a widespread super-totalitarian regime that imprisoned not Millions but Billions of souls.

You really have to be incredibly America-centric to not think that event is one of the most important ever. That would be like Europeans saying "9/11? Just some historical event. Nothing to get worked up about"...except that the fall of the Berlin Wall is about 100 times as significant as 9/11 and almost has significant as the end of wwII.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Why the event is not "just some historical event":

It marks the fall of a widespread super-totalitarian regime that imprisoned not Millions but Billions of souls.

You really have to be incredibly America-centric to not think that event is one of the most important ever. That would be like Europeans saying "9/11? Just some historical event. Nothing to get worked up about"...except that the fall of the Berlin Wall is about 100 times as significant as 9/11 and almost has significant as the end of wwII.

Did you mean the fall of the soviet union perhaps?

Originally posted by krystalice
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Did you mean the fall of the soviet union perhaps?

The totalitarian regime I referred to is the Soviet Union and the entire Communist Block, yes..

Originally posted by krystalice
Could we give the soviets at least some merit of gratitude for defiling the fascist Germany?

Sure. But that party is in another room and at another time. This room is to honor those who changed the course the planet by having the wall fall.

Gorbatchev
Bush
Kohl
Schewardnadse
Genscher

[edit on 8-11-2009 by Skyfloating]

Indeed it is becoming ridiculous. Everybody, who was there is a hero now?
Okay, than I understand, why Obama should be here now.

Finally something that makes sense...

The fall of the wall was an outward ruse by the communists for Western consumption. The KBG/FSB power structure remained, it just changed it's clothes. Of course the so called "intelligence" structures lapped it all up.

Newsflash: The Cold War was never won. In fact, looking at the actions of the House last night....one can say the Commies have won....BIG TIME!

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by TheSlave
Maybe I misunderstood something but the locals here in CR are not calling the missile defense shield "help", they call it a "curse" and want to avoid it at any cost. Politicians might like it but the normal people don't.

Oh riiight...the people in Poland and the Czech Republic who despise Communism/tyranny don't want their countries being able to defend themselves against Russia, and much more so after the show of "who is boss" that the Russian government has been playing around with these, and other European countries..... riiiiight....

All the missle defense shield will do is endanger there security. We don't have the money to be building these shields anyways. If we did build them you would probably be complaining about how much they cost just for the sake of complaining.

One thing is for sure:

This is not a thread about the fall of the wall, but just another anti-Obama-thread.