As we all know by now, the late October predictions came and went without much actually happening that showed up on anyone's radar.

But, as you remember, the timewave zero actually refers to a date where things begin to turn around, it does not refer to a date when an actual precise event happens.

Considering what's going on in the Ukraine with (as of the time I write this) over 900,000 infections from an unknown virus, and considering all the noise about various viruses and conspiracies which might be behind them... Tying all that in with profound changes in the way healthcare and government administrations work...

... Perhaps that date actually was very significant? It's the start of all these changes?

Wondering what everyone else thinks.

I've been doing some deep thinking and I believe I may have found the answer. IMO

2012. Many believe it's just something else for everyone to get scared about. However, it's quite startling when you look at the current events taking place. Ukraine's sudden "flu" outbreak is spreading like hotcakes. Perhaps December 21st 2012 isn't a date that catastrophic events will take place. What if it marks the day the last group, or single human being is to be slain by this new virus? Maybe the countdown towards the end of the human race has already begun.

do you really think so?

the regular influenza virus kills about 20,000 people, in America alone, every year.

compare that to the few hundred dead of H1N1 so far, and i really doubt it's gonna finish off the other 6.4999999 billion in two years.

you're just taking a few popular thread topics (2012, swine flu, Time Wave Zero, the end of the world) and forcing them together, all logic aside. it's silly.

YES IT DID!

According to Web-bot, 25th was a key turning point in emotions, 85% related to finanace, but wold not be clear for another 2-3 weeks.

The 6000-series, Dec 16th Puts options went up from negligible to a low value. Why? Regardless of where the Dow Jones is, people on the whole have now concluded that recovery is no longer here and it is a matter of time before the bottom falls out of the stock market. The chart is also showing the end of the formation of a head and sholders pattern. Whne complete in the next few days/weeks, the Dow Jones will crash from 10,000 approx to about 6000 and then down to 4,500 or so by Christmas.

A crash of this scale will bring, not just the banks down, but the insurance and pension funds as well.

The party stopped that day. WE are in a prelude to Martial Law now.

No, it didn't happen. The "timewave" is rubbish, plain and simple. It offers no testable predictions. All you get are ups and downs and dates on which the "timewave" reaches zero or at least a very low point. Nothing happened on that date.

If you're going to make predictions, they need to be of the future. It is always possible to name a date as when something "started", and then go fishing around for subsequent news to justify that date. If you don't get a hit right on the target date, you can claim that's when it "started", the process began, but didn't manifest until later. You can pretty well count on there being some newsworthy event within any given period of a month or so, even a couple of weeks. So, wait for a news event, then claim that it "started" on the magic date predicted by timewave, web-bot, or whatever. Doing it this way, you can never fail. There may be slow news days, but there are hardly ever slow news weeks. Something is bound to turn up that could be used to retroactively verify a "prediction".

Ah, time... I am really beginning to enjoy pondering exactly what time is - and threads like this and the TWZ et al predictions of late Oct have helped me think about it in different ways. It is all philosophical.

First, to answer your question: yes and no.

Human consciousness is growing rapidly. This is not some ethereal thing that you have to meditate on in order to understand - I am talking about technology here. The internet and rapidly increasing means to information are causing a shift in our consciousness. We are thinking about things in a global context, we have information about almost anything at our fingertips. My google phone is awesome and I never have to deal with saying "I don't know" to any query anymore. It is like Ziggy from Quantum Leap.

This means we are able to connect seemingly unrelated events much faster and more accurately now. It is now possible for us to trace a benign event to a significant event in near real-time. This is very powerful.

Right now I am not sold on any theory about Oct 25 yet. I do believe TWZ is a decent representation of the order behind our chaotic behavior (as a species) but I do not think we have our information technology refined enough to correlate a change in novelty with an event at the time that event takes place. For many, this means no future event will ever be forecasted by TWZ because many feel that the event must be spelled out in detail down to the person, place and second. Too bad that is impossible.

TWZ will tell us the novelty change. We will feel that change in the weeks following, but right now it is not possible to know the details. I am not sure if we will ever know the details.

So yes and no. Time will tell - it always does. I am still open to predictions, but I think right now we can only use our minds to formulate likely outcomes of current events in order to prepare ourselves for the unexpected. TWZ only helps us with the timing of these things.

In my opinion TWZ did indicate the change in our way of seeing the financial and global economic issues while also increasing awareness about the media and government agendas. Let's see where that goes...

Originally posted by hartgrove
Maybe the countdown towards the end of the human race has already begun.

Wouldnt be so bad. Imagine how great this planet would do without us. Its not like we are contributing anything to it. Nobody would miss us.



[edit on 8-11-2009 by Copernicus]

Originally posted by Copernicus

Originally posted by hartgrove
Maybe the countdown towards the end of the human race has already begun.

Wouldnt be so bad. Imagine how great this planet would do without us. Its not like we are contributing anything to it. Nobody would miss us.



[edit on 8-11-2009 by Copernicus]

This is terrible logic. I'm sick of people saying, "Oh, I'm SO sick of the human race, I wish we would just disappear off the face of the earth". It's nihilistic at best, and down right idiotic at worst. I'm sure you're one of those people who say suicide is NEVER the answer, but in the same breath say that if every human died, it'd be okay.

Back on topic, I didn't notice ANYTHING different happen on October 26th. I think people are LOOKING for things to happen, things to explain all the bad that is going on. As someone said previously, if you're gonna make predictions, make ones about the FUTURE.

What happened Oct. 26th was nothing out of the ordinary... In another thread prior to the date I predicted that nothing significant would happen, and I also predicted that even so, people would look for anything at all to say that it did... This thread is a perfect example of that...

Originally posted by aristocrat2
YES IT DID!

According to Web-bot, 25th was a key turning point in emotions, 85% related to finanace, but wold not be clear for another 2-3 weeks.

The 6000-series, Dec 16th Puts options went up from negligible to a low value. Why? Regardless of where the Dow Jones is, people on the whole have now concluded that recovery is no longer here and it is a matter of time before the bottom falls out of the stock market. The chart is also showing the end of the formation of a head and sholders pattern. Whne complete in the next few days/weeks, the Dow Jones will crash from 10,000 approx to about 6000 and then down to 4,500 or so by Christmas.

A crash of this scale will bring, not just the banks down, but the insurance and pension funds as well.

The party stopped that day. WE are in a prelude to Martial Law now.

This is why the system is no longer really independent but is controlled by the Great Santini from behind a curtain using smoke and loud speakers to trumpet the end of the recession.