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Is this what they call sleep paralysis?


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Topic started on 7-11-2009 @ 11:23 PM by Melissa101


The other day I was very tired so I laid down for a nap. I have insomnia sometimes and had not been sleeping well so I was in need of some catch up sleep. Anyway I dreamed I was in a mansion sleeping in an upstairs bedroom. It was like a dream that mirrored reality. In the dream I knew I was alone and I had dreamed that I checked all the locks before lying down just like I did that day before lying down. As I was trying to go to sleep in my dream I had my back to the door that was open (again just like in reality) and I heard footsteps but I could not move, I wanted to wake up and turn over to get up but I could not, then the hair on my neck stood up because I felt a presence behind me and I wanted to turn but I could not I was frozen, no amount of strength would let me turn over and get up. The next thing I knew the what ever it was bit my neck but it was not painful it was very erotic and pleasurable but I was still very frightened because I could not move and I yelled out "get the behind me satan" and it let go and I was able to get up. I woke up and went on about my day, I had forgotten about it until I was reading a post about sleep paralysis. I have done this a few times in the past; the dreams were different but not the fear or being unable to move. I never paid that much attention, forgetting about it once I got up. Is this what people are talking about when they say they have experienced sleep paralysis?



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:26 PM by EMPIRE


My SP is chronic, and I've never experienced anything you've described. That sounds like an incubus or succubus, but I don't think it's SP, at least it's not what I experience.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:34 PM by Melissa101


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I sure hope that SP is not what I am experiencing. I have a question, what is an incubus or succubus? Could you please explain this to me I have never heard of this?



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:37 PM by EMPIRE


Originally posted by Melissa101
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I sure hope that SP is not what I am experiencing. I have a question, what is an incubus or succubus? Could you please explain this to me I have never heard of this?


Again, what I'm saying is based on my experiences, other people have heard the foot steps etc. I don't hear anything and only saw something once (and that was recently.) Anyway, an incubus is a male demon and a succubus is a female demon. The reason why I suggested those two is because you said something about the sensations being erotic.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:39 PM by loner007


it is possible u had a type of sleep paralysis but SP is of 2 types imo. You awake to find urself paralysised. if you are having a lucid dream when this happens than u still be experiencing whatever dream that maybe and the knowledge that u cant move may trigger hidden fears which may manifest themselves in the lucid dream. This is the most common type i would regard to explain all these succubus and incubus people seem to talk about especially in those ppl who are religious. These dreams can be very frightening and can lead to sleep apnea where people have actually died in their sleep by having a heart attack.
The other type of SP is where u are full awake but cannot move this is the most common type of SP and though frightening you are not dreaming and most times the paralysis will wear off.

and how do i know this? I have experienced Sp both in lucid dreaming and in waking up. Once i realised what was happening to me i just pop off back to sleep. SP dosent bother me anymore

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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:40 PM by lifecitizen


Yes it is sleep paralysis.

An incubus or succubus is just another term for it- different cultures call it different things.

en.wikipedia.org...



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:42 PM by EMPIRE


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No, incubi and succubi are not SP.

The incubus is sometimes confused with the legendary "Old Hag" syndrome. The Old Hag episode, however, is usually restricted to an unpleasant feeling of great pressure on the chest and not a ghostly sexual encounter.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

These are erotic in nature and the OP mentioned that. They are not other names for SP.

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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:46 PM by lifecitizen


In Iceland folk culture sleep paralysis is generally called having a "Mara". A goblin or a succubus (since it is generally female) believed to cause nightmares (the origin of the word 'Nightmare' itself is derived from her name). Other European cultures share variants of the same folklore, calling her under different names;

en.wikipedia.org...

An incubus is the male equivalent.

en.wikipedia.org...



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:46 PM by happygolucky


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I sure hope that SP is not what I am experiencing.



You'd prefer a paranormal/fantasy event over a well known and accepted sleep disorder..?




In your case, I guess this makes sense...



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:47 PM by lifecitizen


Originally posted by EMPIRE
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No, incubi and succubi are not SP.

The incubus is sometimes confused with the legendary "Old Hag" syndrome. The Old Hag episode, however, is usually restricted to an unpleasant feeling of great pressure on the chest and not a ghostly sexual encounter.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

These are erotic in nature and the OP mentioned that. They are not other names for SP.

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yes, they are-

they are all one and the same.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:50 PM by EMPIRE


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No, they aren't. Read the links I provided. Also, here is a person who says they had sex with a succubus.

www.trionica.com...

Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders. However, myself and many others do not consider SP and demons to be the same thing. Again, read the link I provided as well as the ones I previously posted.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:54 PM by loner007


Originally posted by EMPIRE
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No, they aren't. Read the links I provided. Also, here is a person who says they had sex with a succubus.

www.trionica.com...

Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders. However, myself and many others do not consider SP and demons to be the same thing. Again, read the link I provided as well as the ones I previously posted.


Omg get the hell out of this thread spamming useless drivel. Show ppl some sort of tangible evidence that these creatures exist. Btw I read books where ppl have said to met leprechaurns and fairies and elves and talking trees.......



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:56 PM by EMPIRE


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I'm not saying they do exist. I'm saying it isn't SP. Did you read what I said SP was? Here let me quote it for you:

Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders.


READ that again several times then reply once you feel logic is on your side.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:57 PM by lifecitizen


Originally posted by EMPIRE
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No, they aren't. Read the links I provided. Also, here is a person who says they had sex with a succubus.

www.trionica.com...

Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders. However, myself and many others do not consider SP and demons to be the same thing. Again, read the link I provided as well as the ones I previously posted.


Well, you might want to read up on sleep paralysis- it's not a disorder it is what happens to each and every one of us each night as we sleep.

Our body goes into paralysis when we sleep- what is happening when you wake up feeling paralised is that the mind is awake but the body is still asleep- no mystery- no demons.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:58 PM by loner007


LOL so sorry totally misread .. i think the 1st line idnt help much :p....



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 12:06 AM by EMPIRE


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Again, I suggest you R-E-A-D what I said and only reply when logic is on your side. Pay attention to the bold section as it is your clue. Then make sure you read the words in italics.

Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders.


So do I have to type it again? I don't know of a way to make it any more simple, but SP is a natural biological process resulting from one of several sleep disorders. So forget telling me to do further reading, you can't even read what is in this thread.

Thanks for playing, sport.






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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 12:13 AM by Titen-Sxull


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Its probably sleep paralysis. The mind is an incredible thing and can make you feel real sensations. The idea is that while you are very much awake part of you is still asleep enough to be paralyzed and even, in some cases, dream. The fact that you are between dream and reality is likely what caused the whole erotic vampire bite sensation. Usually sleep paralysis is unpleasant with pressure on the chest and loud noises (Exploding Head Syndrome).

I highly doubt it was supernatural.



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 12:15 AM by loner007


Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders.


Well no that is wrong. Sp does not come from any type of sleep disorder. You are correct in saying its a biological process. Sp happens to everybody when we sleep. It is to stop us from hurting ourselves when we dream. Most people dont even know they had SP unless they wake up whilst the body is still paralysised. Waking up during this is not a disorder but some brain functions are still in sleep mode and just takes a while before they come out of sleep.



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 12:18 AM by Melissa101


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Excuce me? Who do you think you are? I have heard negative things about having SP and I no where in my statement said that I would rather have one over the other, that was your twist. I have no idea realy what any of this is because it is not an area I have studied or ever given much thought to. I would like for you to expand on what you mean by in my case I guess that makes since?



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 12:21 AM by EMPIRE


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SP can result from many sleep disorders, one being narcolepsy. In addition, one may experience it more when their circadian rhythm is off, and they don't practice good sleep habits.

In closing, stop telling me I'm wrong when it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.



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