Originally posted by Bored To Tears
So you are happy at being forced to pay for something or risk being heavily fined and possibly jailed (don't know if that last bit is true)?

YES!

If it means that everyone that milks the system has to get coverage as well, YES!

This is one where the responsible get screwed, folks. There are those that have no problem passing on the bill to the rest of us. Blame them for this, but it's the only way out of it.

If someone wants to live and take care of themselves, go for it! If someone wants to kill themselves, have at it!! But I don't want to be punished for their decisions.

All I want to know is do they have the details on the public option?

The bill has ppassed, so no point in arguing against it now.

How will the public option be dished out? It better be damned cheap, or ill just continue to not carry any insurance.

I want it to be like medicare where you just bring the card and not have to be billed or pay up front. I better not be #ing denied either cuz I work at Wall-Mart and frankly I do not enjoy their health care options. and do not consider myself so wealthy thhat a $500 deductible, added to at least 30$ a month, plus $20 co-pay per visit is worth it when I physcially have spent less than 100$ a year for when I do become ill.

If I had insurance in the last five years that I have worked, I actually would have paid over 5 times more than what I actually spent on any health related issues in those five years. That public option better be damn cheap.

PS, you already pay a lot of things where you can be imprisoned or otherwise severely disciplined foor not paying.

Property taxes anyonne? Income taxes?

I say if we get enoug peope to switch to the public option, then we can ban the privatization of any health companies and the entire system will be under the taxpayer's control instead of the special interest of autocratic organizations which funnel the earning into unethical business practices and umbrella corps worldwide.

The next step will be to take bback the Fed. Yall ready for it; its gonna be one helluva fight!!!

The money will remain the same, including name, with the exception of the following: Printer currency will no longer read "Federal Reserve Note". Instead it will say "American Treasury Note" or something of that mattter.

Originally posted by jam321
I see no where that the taxpayer can control anything. The power will still be in the hands of a select few.

Therein lies the rub, Jam...

Whether the private sector owns it or the government owns it, WE still can't control it. So where do you go?

I say the "Lesser of 2 Evils" approach.

Private companies have shareholders. They NEED to turn profits. That is incompatible with the decisions that sometimes need to be made in order to save a life. sometimes, 200K for treatments over time is NOT profitable. I ask you which of the 2 evils is more likely to side with the individual? The government that at times is WAYY TOO entitlement-driven (I'll grant that), or the For-Profit company that pretty much is part of a monopoly?


We NEED to err on the side of life here, not balance sheets.

No one would need help if aspirin wasn't 8$ a pill. What store does your hospital go to, to buy meds?

Why do so many run to the government, the medical industry will just get to rape more peoples wallets with gov approval?

You want to know how much a doctor needs to tell you that you are sick? 10$...whats a visit cost these days? hundreds? Why does no one look at the real culprits here?

What do you mean it would not be under taxpayer control?

Government employed citizens will be doing all the clerical work. The various local agencies and department will be run by citizen elected citizens just as school board and local government.

Your city has a mayor and a city council. The council members, as well as the mayor and several other elected officialls will also serve on the boards of other agencies or departents within the municipal jurisdiction. They in turn have qualified professionals that they hire to assist in running the government system which serves the community, such as sanitation, schools, courts, police and fire department.

Now health will have this same privelage, and the end game is not to serve shareholders and churn out dividends just so someone can purchase a corvette for the Summer, or take the wife and kids to Paris.