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Originally posted by Trams
reply to post by L.HAMILTON
Wow, I just saw Michael Moore's Capitalism: A Love Story, today and this kind of backs up what he talks about. What I think is that these congressmen have made their choice on which side they are on. What sides are there anyway? The poor/middle class versus the rich. The corrupt rich obviously run many things in Washington.
The only thing that we, the poor/middle class of America have over them is numbers. The numbers come in handy when we vote, because according to the constitution we are all equal poltically. They don't want to interfere with the constitution, otherwise we would likely respond. Maybe they will try in the future, when certain events occur.
But like I have stated, we have the power of voting over them. Also something that needs to be said, is that not all politicans are corrupt. Some are there to actually do what they are suppose to, and ensure our happiness and well-being.
Star and Flag, there is obviously something going on, for almost have of House are millionares.
I wonder how many in the House just became Billionaires after passing that bill
Amen brother ; there is no independent oversight when it comes to lobbyists or special interest groups activity. The problem is how to instill these changes in an 'old boy' system.
Originally posted by Britguy
One thing to note is that the figures are based on Known declared earnings and filings. I'd be willing to bet many of them have plenty more in undisclosed accounts offshore.
I did like the idea Jesse Ventura has about having the politicians wear Nascar style overalls, with all of their sponsors names on, so we could see exactly who they answer to.
This is the BIG problem though with career politicians and the lobbying system. It is a breeding ground for graft and corruption, and consequently blackmail too.
It has always been my view that any politician taking any money from lobbyists or special interest groups should automatically be barred from public office.
There is no independent oversight of government allowed, they always get to appoint investigators and manage any investigation into their own actions so it's no wonder they can get away with so much. The only way it is going to change is for the current incumbents and the old boy network behind them to be removed and a new system set up. Limited terms, independent oversight and transparency and absolutely no lobbying money at all.
Now THAT'S change that would benefit the people and the country!
[edit on 8-11-2009 by Britguy]
Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by HankMcCoy
You might be. Cause the millionaire is aprofessional at @#*@ing people.
The gas pump clerk just wants to do his job, what he is paid to do.
I see what you mean, but we have had these punks in office for a long time, how much good have they done for us? We owe just as much money as we haveinour GDP. We just need someone with good math skills that isnt insistant on screwing us over.
Originally posted by concernedcitizan
It seems to me that those who speak loudest about the wealth of others are those who failed in their own lives. Sorry. You have to be somewhat successful to run for office in this country. If you don't like it vote third party or do a write in. I followed the rules, went to school, earned a degree, worked my way through a myriad of jobs, and have benefitted from the capitalist system. Go forth and do likewise. Don't blame others for your inadequacies. Damned if I'm going to feel bad for being successful.
Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Am I the only one that would rather have someone successful enough to have become a millionaire in office rather than the guy that pumps my gas?
[edit on 8-11-2009 by HankMcCoy]
Originally posted by Snarf
Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Am I the only one that would rather have someone successful enough to have become a millionaire in office rather than the guy that pumps my gas?
[edit on 8-11-2009 by HankMcCoy]
As far as im concerned, yes.
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HR 2749 has only suddenly appeared. It is a mutant conglomeration of the worst of the other bills, with the addition of one very original part – martial law.
* HR 2749 would give FDA the power to order a quarantine of a geographic area, including “prohibiting or restricting the movement of food or of any vehicle being used or that has been used to transport or hold such food within the geographic area.”
[This - "that has been used to transport or hold such food" - would mean all cars that have ever brought groceries home or any pickup someone has eaten take-out in, so this means ALL TRANSPORTATION can be shut down under this. This is using food as a cover for martial law.]
Under this provision, farmers markets and local food sources could be shut down, even if they are not the source of the contamination. The agency can halt all movement of all food in a geographic area.
[This is also a means of total control over the population under the cover of food, and at any time.]
Farm Wars
Weathiest Members Of Congress
John Kerrey (D) $900 Million Herb Kohl (D) $315 Million Jay Rockefeller (D) $275 Million Nancey Pelosi (D) $268 Million
Moving fast......The Clintons amassed nearly $169 million in the past 10 years of "public service".
Working for the Clintons isn't bad either.....
But the entry that really sent my Democratic strategist friend ballistic was the one for Rep. Rosa DeLauro, the Connecticut Democrat. La Rosa--tied for #48 on the Richest list--gets the lion's share of her wealth from her husband--Clintonista pollster and campaign strategist Stan Greenberg. Says Roll Call, "DeLauro's primary asset is a 67-percent stake in Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research Inc., a Washington-based firm run by her husband, Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg. Her share in the company nets the Representative $5 million to $25 million. She has a partial stake in two other polling/consulting firms. The first is Greenberg Research, of which she and her husband own 100 percent, and Sun Surveys, in which she owns a 60 percent stake. Neither of these is as lucrative as Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, however."
My bud the political warhorse snorted, "Hell, she first ran for Congress she didn't have a dime--I was one of her biggest contributors. And Stan Greenberg, who worked for me back when he was starting out, used to have holes in his socks!" Noting that Congressional wealth is usually closer to the higher than to the lower estimates on the disclosure forms, my dour Democrat gasped, "That means they're making around $50 million! These people shouldn't be running Democratic campaigns!"
So, if you want to know why the national Democrats seem, in this campaign, to have a tin ear where touching the hearts and minds of the working stiffs is concerned, think about this: the three partners in the Democracy Corps--Greenberg, James Carville, and Kerry's chief message-shaper Bob Shrum--are all multimillionaires. And yet their counsel--proferred in an endless series of free Democracy Corps memos distributed to the party elite well before and during the presidential primaries, whose content (or lack of it) they helped shape--is taken as gospel by Democratic liberals feverish for victory. Well, as the old Texas populist Maury Maverick Jr. used to say, "a liberal is a power junkie without the power."
www.mlive.com...
So your fix would be to put unsuccessful people in congress?