Originally posted by Copernicus
Originally posted by wx4caster
yeah, i am selfish. 9 years serving the country, 26 months deployed away from my family and friends. i agree that if people genuinely need help
because they are physically incapable of providing for themselves, then we help them.
but if you are satisfied with working a mundane job with no insurance and minimum pay, while you save no money, then you deserve to reap what you sow.
why the hell should i go to school and work long hours making hard earned cash just to put it back into the system so that you can afford health
care?
you dont make enough? go make more. you cant find a job? go to school, there are already tons of government programs available to get you into school.
get a better job. work harder. play less.
these are the basic principals of life.
No, those are the basic principals of American society today. Not life. Life is something completely different.
Where I live, the minimum wage is something you can live on. You dont need to take several jobs just so you can pay your bills. Everybody are free to
study at any university if they get good enough grades, and if they dont, there are schools where they can redo the classes they failed and get better
grades. All this is free of charge (except paying for the books).
You see, in the US, minimum wage jobs are really meant to be for kids in high school that get work release programs, or maybe part time jobs for
college kids who want some extra income. Or maybe part time jobs for the elderly who wish to supplement their Social Security. People here are not
MEANT to live off minimum wage jobs.
HOWEVER, people are forced to live off minimum wage jobs, because they CHOOSE this. They choose to drop out of high school, because they want to join
gangs, are lazy, or any other number of reasons. They make the choices, you see, it is not forced upon them. It is not lack of opportunity, it is lack
of WILL.
We expect people to graduate high school, go to college. Even if you cannot afford to go to college, just graduating high school can get you a job
above minimum wage.
People here can make it too, they just don't think they should HAVE to. This is the difference people from other countries fail to see. It is
laziness, and a willingness to ride on someone elses back. The government is only partially to blame for alllowing illegals to steal our jobs, but
thats in another post.
They are also to blame to for allowing people neverending welfare. There is no reason to get off welfare. The more babies you have, the bigger the
check gets. They can get their hair and nails done, sell some drugs and get the caddillacs and SUVs and cellphones, but they can't pay a medical
bill. See, a lot of the people screaming they can't pay their bills are simply choosing that they do not HAVE to. Now, I did not say all, so do not
misquote me here.
So you see that is a society where everyone CAN make it in reality, and not just theory like in the USA. If you get born into poverty in the USA, its
almost impossible to make it (but a few do, I know, and you use those as examples despite them being more like lotto winners).
Tha is a lie. If you are born into poverty in the US you have the exact same chances as anyone else to make it out. You get free school, all you have
to do is finish the 12th grade. But you see, since we have enlisted a lifelong entitlement program in the US, people think it is just fine to sit in
government subsidized housing and live off the taxpayers. They are not forced to do anything different, why should they? They have ZERO motivation.
You are just making the same excuses they are.
The downside is that almost nobody is extremely rich over here since people who make a lot of money do pay more taxes. But you dont have anyone being
really poor either. So you see, people are pretty much equals here. We dont have gated communities with guards to distance ourselves from the poor
people like you do.
People here pay more taxes when they make more too. What exactly do you call rich? Because, I bet we have really different ideas on that. Are you rich
if you bring home 50,000 a year? 75,000? !00,000?
So, being inside this system, I like it. Its a better moral system that includes all people. Your government are crooks because they live in the
system you enjoy. They step on people and get rich and powerful. How come this is wrong in a country where the system encourages it? You cant blame
them for "succeeding".
No, thats a misnomer. They do not live in the system we enjoy, thats the problem. They live totally outside of it and are oblivious to it, hence why
they continue to heap these absurd laws on us without have a clue how this is going to impatc the people of this country.
They do step on the people, I will not deny this, because the taxes we pay pay for their private jets. Only some of the people encourage this, by
saying, "That's ok!" to laws like this. Do you think the people writing these laws won't get some kind of kickback? They are lining their pockets
while lining the pockets of their friends, and lobbyists, all for the mighty vote to stay in the office that keeps giving them the private jets! That
is NOT OK!
Its all included in our taxes. 
