PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail, page 1
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Topic started on 7-11-2009 @ 11:10 AM by centurion1211
For all that want to defend the Pelosi (and Obama) Healthcare Plan, here it is in black and white. Buy health insurance or pay a fine and/or go to jail. But what if you didn't have health insurance because you already couldn't afford it. Reminds me of the "debtors prisons" in the past, where if you couldn't pay a debt, you went to jail where you had no chance then to pay the debt so you just sat there in prison.

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The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail.


and

“H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]

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“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]


See the article for the list of penalties in the bill.

And finally:

According to the Congressional Budget Office the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.


There you have it, come up with $15,000 per year for the democrat mandated plan or go to jail.

A bad healthcare reform bill is NOT better than no healthcare reform bill.

[edit on 11/7/2009 by centurion1211]


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:38 AM by Miraj
reply to post by star in a jar



No it isn't.. What Obama had in mind originally I was for. I was for a health care system like Canada or Britain

Now the topic has just mutated into some monster, and the monster is starting to attack the poor.

[edit on 7-11-2009 by Miraj]


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 11:44 AM by badgerprints
Originally posted by Miraj
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post by star in a jar



No it isn't.. What Obama had in mind originally I was for.


Obama didn't have anything in mind.

He knew what was coming and lied to you.

That's what politicians do.

Then they steal your wallet and tell you it's for your own good.


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 12:07 PM by endisnighe
Already covered hereAlready covered


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[edit on Sat Nov 7 2009 by DontTreadOnMe]


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 12:37 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by j2000



Oh bloody hell! If this passes in the Senate we are screwed. Our only hope will be to throw all that vote for it out during the next election and start repealing it.

EDIT: are you sure it just passed the House, because I don't see it on any of the news sites?

[edit on 7-11-2009 by HotSauce]


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 12:48 PM by Elostone
reply to post by HotSauce



The House just passed Rules for Debate on the Health Care Bill. They will now Debate the Bill for 4 hours... On CSPAN right now


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 12:50 PM by HotSauce
reply to post by Elostone



Thanks for the update my man. I guess I will go watch so I can drive myself even crazier. Its kind of like waiting for the guy holding you hostage to pull the trigger.



reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 12:52 PM by j2000
Originally posted by Elostone
reply to
post by HotSauce



The House just passed Rules for Debate on the Health Care Bill. They will now Debate the Bill for 4 hours... On CSPAN right now


Sorry, seen the vote and had a case of temporary insanity.
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