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reply posted on 3-7-2010 @ 11:32 PM by mnemeth1
reply to post by Lilitu



The pledge of allegiance was created by a socialist to promote State authority and power. It was intended to be a tool used to brainwash children.

I owe allegiance to no one.

No American should swear allegiance to the State.

The State does not own me. I am not State property. I am not a serf.



[edit on 3-7-2010 by mnemeth1]


reply posted on 3-7-2010 @ 11:42 PM by toolstarr
reply to post by mnemeth1



i have always had issues with this as well. it didn't sit well with me to stay at my sons school and see all the kids mindlessly pledge allegiance.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:29 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
The ignorance of the Constitution is bi-partisan and not limited to one political party, and in particularly the ignorance of members of Congress pertaining to the Constitution has become a common place phenomenon. Consider this exchange between Speaker of the House Nanci Pelosi and a reporter:

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi looked like a deer caught in the blinding headlight of an oncoming freight train, her expression frozen in either ignorance or fear. It has always been difficult to distinguish between the two in her. But the malice in her words was palpable.

CNSNews.com: Madam Speaker, where specifically does the Constitution grant Congress the authority to enact an individual health insurance mandate?

Pelosi: Are you serious? Are you serious?

CNSNews.com: Yes, yes, I am.

Pelosi then shook her head before taking a question from another reporter. Her press spokesman, Nadeam Elshami, then told CNSNews.com that asking the speaker of the House where the Constitution authorized Congress to mandate that individual Americans buy health insurance was not a "serious question."

You can put this on the record, said Elshami. That is not a serious question. That is not a serious question.


www.capitalismmagazine.com...

However, after this exchange Elshami later issued a press release stating that it was the Commerce Clause that empowered Congress to legislate insurance mandates. Not a serious question? Why then issue such a press release?

Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), defends the federal mandate to purchase health insurance by pointing to federal speed limit laws on federal highways, and Steny Hoyer (D-Maryland) invokes the Welfare Clause in order to justify the federal mandate. There is not even agreement on a party level as to what Clause of the Constitution actually grants Congress the authority to make such a mandate, let alone an understanding of the Constitution in general.

From the other party there is the infamous remark by Rick Santorum (R-Pennsylvania), asserting that the Constitution does not "grant any right to privacy", clearly ignorant of the existence of the 9th Amendment, let alone its meaning.

There are many examples of both Republicans and Democrats demonstrating a profound ignorance of the Constitution, and this threads clear attempt to function as a partisan political party hack does nothing to "deny ignorance" regarding the Constitution, particularly since there is no clear mandate for the existence of political parties to begin with.



reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:39 AM by mnemeth1
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



Gotta love that commerce clause LOL

They should call it the "Police State" clause.

Congress can use guns to make you do anything.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:42 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by mnemeth1



It is outrageous that the SCOTUS has extended the meaning of the Commerce Clause as far as they have, but at least with the SCOTUS, what was once "settled law" as Kagan has been fond of claiming in her hearings, can be and has been overturned.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:44 AM by mnemeth1
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



I have faith that the bill of rights can be fully overturned by our criminal congress.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:55 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by mnemeth1
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post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



I have faith that the bill of rights can be fully overturned by our criminal congress.



Most assuredly that pesky 9th Amendment is constantly ignored in order to frame the Bill of Rights as a government grant of rights, rather than the clear prohibitions they are on Congress.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:55 AM by mnemeth1
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



9th amendment, jesus h christ man.

You can go to jail for mentioning that.

You should watch your language around here mister.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 01:24 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by mnemeth1



Lol! Your are correct, I am as profane as can be. I am shamefully an advocate for freedom, and stand guilty as charged.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 01:36 AM by mnemeth1
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



US History classes actually teach that the 9th amendment doesn't exist.

Its simply a typo.

Ask any public high school teacher in America if they have ever heard of the 9th amendment and they will stare at you with a blank face.



reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 01:44 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by mnemeth1



Unless, of course, they are teaching their class about Roe v. Wade, then suddenly the non-existent 9th Amendment exists just long enough to teach the "value" of abortions.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 01:46 AM by mnemeth1
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



Sir, women have rights.

You, as a man, do not.

Lets be clear here.

Rights are for minorities.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 02:04 AM by mnemeth1
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



More seditious speech.

Sir, you are walking a fine line here.

You may turn up in the next ADL report on extremism.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 02:09 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by mnemeth1





You may turn up in the next ADL report on extremism.


Join me won't you?

I know it is an ambition of yours.

Let's play in the sandbox of freedom and let the grown-ups scold us for having the "audacity of hope".
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