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Originally posted by neformore
You know, it doesn't matter what this fool shouted before he killed people. Why? Because the shootings were his action, and his action alone. His religion is irrelevant. He may have been mentally ill. He may just have been a cold hearted bastard. He may have been a fundamentalist. He may have been all of those things and more, but at the end of the day he was one man.
Originally posted by Violater1
I just finished reading the Quran, I was astonished by the fact that this book has nothing to do with peace. I now fully understand why Major Nader was compelled to massacre all of the innocent lives on Ft Hood. I also recognize why the muslim's hate the Kifir or unbelievers. After reading this you too will understand why the world will have a very difficult time bringing peace to the muslim world.
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. – 2:216 Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
….. martyrs…. Enter heaven – Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. – 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. – Surah 3:169-71
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[edit on 7-11-2009 by GAOTU789]
Originally posted by phoneyid
According to Luke 19:27
"and those that do not wish for me to reign above them, bring them hither and slay them before me"
'Our' bible also tells us that if someone, even our own brother, tells us to follow other Gods, that we should smite him and even his cattle.
The Parable of the Ten Minas
11While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12He said: "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a]'Put this money to work,' he said, 'until I come back.'
14"But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, 'We don't want this man to be our king.'
15"He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.
16"The first one came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned ten more.'
17" 'Well done, my good servant!' his master replied. 'Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.'
18"The second came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned five more.'
19"His master answered, 'You take charge of five cities.'
20"Then another servant came and said, 'Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.'
22"His master replied, 'I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23Why then didn't you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?'
24"Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'
25" 'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'
26"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. 27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Probably because that guy did not carry out his attacks in the name of religion. Saying this current example was not done in the name of religion is kind of like saying a guy who blows up a stem-cell research clinic while yelling "On the 6th day, GOD created man...On the 6th day, GOD created man...On the 6th day, GOD created man!" was not motivated by religious beliefs.
[edit on 7/11/2009 by Dark Ghost]
Originally posted by poet1b
It seems almost daily that you hear about some Muslim fanatic blowing themselves up in a public place killing other innocent people.
Originally posted by grey580
An unbeliever is someone that does not worship Allah or god.
Jews, Muslims and Christians all worship the same god.