This is a busy busy time is it not? Serial killer in cleveland, shooter in ft hood, now shooter in orlando. Add to that a huge huge healthcare bill that no one will probably read. God knows what there are going to try to throw in there. They have a huge history of that. Add to that a major world-wide climate change treaty in december. Economy in the tank and the swine flu. People are losing it right and left. They will use this that is what they do. And the fear of the people will go right along with what ever they decide. I don't know if this stuff was false flag or anything like that but it seems to always come at once and that does look more scary than an isolated incident here and there. I haven't even mentioned all the 5-8 person murder suicides of entire families blamed on job loss. Things are changin folks. I think this is just the beginning.

Originally posted by andrewsymonds
first texas,then florida..........next?.....

I am going to bet California, Minnesota, Michigan or Kansas. I know, I listed 4 out of a possible 48 (minus 2 states) giving me a 1 in 12 shot of being right but those places are ripe for something like this.

My thoughts and prayers go out to those that have lost their lives in any fashion.

Man I get nothing done during the day when I visit ATS. That's where the blackhole is as my time just disappears when I am here.

Well this guy had better pray OPD apprehends him before Orange County gets to him. Orange County is notorious for shooting first in situations similar to this.

Originally posted by bigvig316
This is not the America that I grew up in. It is getting bad out there. These are strange days we are going through. First Fort Hood and now Orlando with shootings and mass casualties. God help the USA.

GOD help the USA? R u kidding me? GOD help IRAQ! the entire middle EAST! and im NOT referring to our troops EITHER!

Originally posted by Dorian Soran

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
It's not terrorism folks, even if he is of Muslim religion and shots "allah ackbar"..


Remember this.

See my friend that is where you are WRONG - totally WRONG!!!

That is exactly what DOES make it terrorism.

Why does it not in your mind, may I ask?

Dorian Soran

Because they are using the Muslim thing to brainwash more people into hating the Arabs. It's all part of the master plan, you will see more and more of these shootings in the next months as they crank up the heat to BAN ALL GUNS IN AMERICA.....What in the hell are you people NOT UNDERSTANDING HERE??????????????


MAN this pissed me off to no end. People CAN NOT see the forest for the trees. LOOK at wha tthe objective is... how are they going to get what THEY want? Come on already, how hard is it to understand something so simple?

Sitting here listening to the sheriff operations in orlando, heard the dispatcher telling the officers to listen to one of the radio stations to get more info heh


I am not sure, but from the sounds of it, they know where the guy is. The officers were talking about they could not move in because they havent heard the "game plan" and dont have any orders yet.


Dunno, just tossing out the info for ya'll. Use at your own risk lol


Edit : Yeah they're calling for the SWAT to get onto the sherrif's channel to coordinate better. At patricka? (unsure of spelling) at cumberland. Sorry I don't know orlando, just tossing it out as i hear it lol

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can anyone say beginning of gun bans in the US? i say a thread about how the UK lost their gun rights and it draws some parallels... just have to wonder whats next...

BULLETIN -- OFFICIAL: GUNMAN NOT FOUND AFTER INITIAL SEARCH OF ORLANDO BUILDING; NO FATALITIES REPORTED.

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Originally posted by Zeta Reticuli

Originally posted by bigvig316
This is not the America that I grew up in. It is getting bad out there. These are strange days we are going through. First Fort Hood and now Orlando with shootings and mass casualties. God help the USA.

GOD help the USA? R u kidding me? GOD help IRAQ! the entire middle EAST! and im NOT referring to our troops EITHER!

And here we go. The USA is bad. It deserves what it gets. USA is the devil. It does bad things to people. Blah, blah and some more f*'ing blah.

Please spare me the whole world is hurting and the USA isn't. Spare us all the lecture about the big, bad evil US and how it does nothing good. Yes, there are MILLIONS that need help all over the world. What we don't need more of is terriorism, people strapping bombs to kids and blowing them up, killing innocent people while we let murders go free, people that want to b*tch, moan and complain (whiners) instead of offering ideas and support. You decide which side of the fence you are on but it doesn't appear to be the side most of us are on.

Nevermind. haha

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Originally posted by mkross1983
Nevermind. haha

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BOOOOOO!!! Where is the fun in that??

2nd line is for winners!

I'll be surprised if anything comes of this. The SWAT will take him out fast and hard, he wont have time to react, if they do it right.

Still though, there's a part of me that wants to connect yesterday and today. I know there isn't a connection but it's just so close.

Originally posted by Mr Headshot


Still though, there's a part of me that wants to connect yesterday and today. I know there isn't a connection but it's just so close.

A lot of us are feeling like that right now. Heck, everyone in the world who knows about the Fort Hood shooting is wanting to connect the too. Whether it's reasonable to do so or not is another thing.

Random thought...if they aren't related, I wonder if the Orlando shooter was inspired by yesterday's events or if he got peeved that someone beat him to it.

Since this isolated incident, 16,000 people have died elsewhere around the world. Where's the news of that?

15 people have died while you read this post, where's that news?

Point is that they are keeping you tunnel visioned on the death of a blade of grass in a 10 acre field.

Originally posted by juzchilln
Since this isolated incident, 16,000 people have died elsewhere around the world. Where's the news of that?

15 people have died while you read this post, where's that news?

Point is that they are keeping you tunnel visioned on the death of a blade of grass in a 10 acre field.

Just my 2 cent response to that. Those thousands you speak of are thousands of miles away from where this crime occured. My vision is on the US and the protection of such. While I pay attention to what is going on around me, I pay more attention to what is coming up and what has past. I feel bad for those thousands but their government/dictator/whatever and fellow countrymen can help them out. I am helping mine out.

Originally posted by bigvig316
This is not the America that I grew up in. It is getting bad out there. These are strange days we are going through. First Fort Hood and now Orlando with shootings and mass casualties. God help the USA.

Are you kidding?! Not only America but all other countries have problems like this every single year from the day I was born. Were you raised inside some sort of bubble that cut off the world?! Did you forget about WWI and WWII? How about all the other wars in history?! Do you think 12 people dying on some army base in America is just as bad if not worse than a war?! People get killed ALL THE TIME in America! Just because it doesn't make the news and make it to your eyes doesn't mean it never happened!

He was apprehended at his moms house. Which apparently is about 2 blocks from me...was wondering why I was hearing sirens so close.

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