Real A: Well larry silverstein put a massive insurance policy on the world trade center the month before 9-11 specifically regarding terrorism. Did he know something was going to happen? Larry got his cash, the government got their war. Patriot act passed. We lost our freedom.

Originally posted by dalepmay
reply to post by The_Zomar

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I could be misinformed, but didn't the 19 hijackers live in the U.S.? And attend our schools/universities? I wasn't aware that we had school students here in the U.S. living in caves.

searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the FBI to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records. Since its passage, several legal challenges have been brought against the act, and Federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions are unconstitutional

The act also expands the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.
In a resolution passed on June 29, 2005 they stated that "Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act allows the government to secretly request and obtain library records for large numbers of individuals without any reason to believe they are involved in illegal activity

Human Rights First is concerned about a particular problem raised by the Inspector General in the report which the Department of Justice has not addressed. It involves the continued reliance on the so-called “custody procedure” regulations which permit detention of any alien – regardless of whether they have been designated as a “suspected terrorist” – without charge beyond 48 hours for a “reasonable period” in the event of “emergency” or other “extraordinary circumstances.”

The post-9/11 period has seen a dramatic expansion of government surveillance. Law enforcement has received extensive funding for this purpose. With little regulation and poor understanding of constitutional protections, the authorities have overstepped their bounds, especially in monitoring political activity. Many groups and individuals have found out that they have been spied upon; these include peace activists, demonstrators at anti-war rallies, animal-rights groups, student organizations, critics of U.S. policy toward Cuba, and opponents of the World Trade Organization.
Government agencies and their private contractors have covertly received private customer data from airlines, telephone carriers, credit card firms, and Internet service providers. Congress has begun investigating potential abuses and threats to civil liberties.

The Top 40 Reasons To Doubt The Official Story Of September 11th, 2001

Unlike other losses from September 11, this loss did not happen all at once on a clear fall morning. A photograph or video camera cannot convey the damage. These changes have taken place slowly and incrementally, beneath the surface. What’s needed is an x-ray – a way to show how the very bones of U.S. law, policy and practice have shifted.

U.S. anti-terrorism policies not only contradict principles woven into the country’s political and legal structure, they also contradict international human rights principles...

Justice cannot exist without respect for human rights.

a federal court found that John Ashcroft, then-attorney general, violated the rights of U.S. citizens by ordering arrests on material witness warrants when the government lacked probable cause.
The judges — all appointed by Republican presidents — found that Ashcroft could be sued for prosecutorial abuses.

As the months unfolded after 9/11, we saw Congress passing dictatorial legislation, giving the President the kind of powers that Stalin and Hitler wielded.
"U.S. citizens suspected of terror ties might be detained indefinitely and barred from access to civilian courts under legislation proposed by the Bush administration, say legal experts reviewing an early version of the bill."

Originally posted by The_Zomar

Plane recorded to be flying in and out of USA:
CIA plane crashes with over 3 tons of coke

But you know, those who believe the official story won't comment on facts so my post was probably worthless.

Originally posted by dodadoom
reply to post by jprophet420

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If I may.
Only ones that are blatantly unconstitutional!

searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the FBI to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records. Since its passage, several legal challenges have been brought against the act, and Federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions are unconstitutional

Um, gee, how about the right to be secure in our own homes!
I guess it wont much matter when we're dead from the flu anyway.
We must like it dry with no lube.
en.wikipedia.org...
Ah, the real reason:

The act also expands the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.
In a resolution passed on June 29, 2005 they stated that "Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act allows the government to secretly request and obtain library records for large numbers of individuals without any reason to believe they are involved in illegal activity

How very convenient!

Human Rights First is concerned about a particular problem raised by the Inspector General in the report which the Department of Justice has not addressed. It involves the continued reliance on the so-called “custody procedure” regulations which permit detention of any alien – regardless of whether they have been designated as a “suspected terrorist” – without charge beyond 48 hours for a “reasonable period” in the event of “emergency” or other “extraordinary circumstances.”

www.humanrightsfirst.org...
Even though it is in direct violation of the Geneva convention!
Do I need to go into the torture thing too?

The post-9/11 period has seen a dramatic expansion of government surveillance. Law enforcement has received extensive funding for this purpose. With little regulation and poor understanding of constitutional protections, the authorities have overstepped their bounds, especially in monitoring political activity. Many groups and individuals have found out that they have been spied upon; these include peace activists, demonstrators at anti-war rallies, animal-rights groups, student organizations, critics of U.S. policy toward Cuba, and opponents of the World Trade Organization.
Government agencies and their private contractors have covertly received private customer data from airlines, telephone carriers, credit card firms, and Internet service providers. Congress has begun investigating potential abuses and threats to civil liberties.

Oh, looky here, it says Congress is investigating these abuses!
Were saved!
www.trackedinamerica.org...

The Top 40 Reasons To Doubt The Official Story Of September 11th, 2001

www.911truth.org...

Unlike other losses from September 11, this loss did not happen all at once on a clear fall morning. A photograph or video camera cannot convey the damage. These changes have taken place slowly and incrementally, beneath the surface. What’s needed is an x-ray – a way to show how the very bones of U.S. law, policy and practice have shifted.

www.humanrightsfirst.org...

U.S. anti-terrorism policies not only contradict principles woven into the country’s political and legal structure, they also contradict international human rights principles...

Justice cannot exist without respect for human rights.

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www.globalissues.org...
www.youtube.com...

a federal court found that John Ashcroft, then-attorney general, violated the rights of U.S. citizens by ordering arrests on material witness warrants when the government lacked probable cause.
The judges — all appointed by Republican presidents — found that Ashcroft could be sued for prosecutorial abuses.

latimesblogs.latimes.com...
www.ca9.uscourts.gov...

As the months unfolded after 9/11, we saw Congress passing dictatorial legislation, giving the President the kind of powers that Stalin and Hitler wielded.
"U.S. citizens suspected of terror ties might be detained indefinitely and barred from access to civilian courts under legislation proposed by the Bush administration, say legal experts reviewing an early version of the bill."

cuttingedge.org...
I could go on and on but I'm thirsty.....
and the apathy is appallingly dry in amerika.



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