Originally posted by ANNED
Al Qeada would like to and is trying to take over both Yemen and Somalia.

This would allow them to control both sides of the Gulf of Aden and any shipping coming out or going into the red sea and the suez canal.

This is about 1/3 of the shipping of the world
and much of the shipping from china to europe.

If you think the would is having trouble with a few Somalia pirates.

Think what Al Qeada could do with a 50 to 60 Suicide bombers in small boats packed with explosives

You've got it!

AQ is really now a corporate merger of the loose AQ federation and the Egyptian Brotherhood. Pretty much the Board of Directors of extremist Muslim Terrorism. They are smart enough not to have a targetable HQ and keep switching their communication modes, codes, patterns.

Weak countires with basket case economies like Somalia and Yemen are fairly easy control. Buy out whatever semblance of a central government there is or install one. Controlling whatever military ther isdoes not present a problem.

We won't hear about all this as reporters have no access, there are no press releases or real media in these places. AQ is quietly consolidating big chunks of strategic real estate. Bin Laden family originated there and the country has been a Safe Haven for year.

Though he's been dead for years, anyone who doubts bin Laden was a real person and CEO of 9/11 knows absolutely zero of the Middle East. A hguely powerful family with thousands of member. OBL had over 50 siblings.

A hero in Saudi Arabia for kicking ass in Afghanistan, the deal was made the Saudis would quietly fund him on the condition he posed no threat to the royal family and operated outside the kingdom.

Al Qaida is real. And determined to bring down the US, as they think they did with the Soviet Union.

All this is well-documented in books and articles by independent writers and investigators from a dozen country.

Ignore the adolescent analysis you see on conspiracy websites. AQ Lives.


M

Originally posted by mmiichael

Ignore the adolescent analysis you see on conspiracy websites. AQ Lives.

Mass ad hominem attack and opinion all in one neat little line. Plus it's not even on topic.

None of us here really know anything. We get scraps of misinformation and propaganda thrown to us when it is deemed necessary. You think you can get to the heart of the truth from that? You have opinion and that is all.


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Pretty interesting. Saudis fighting Iranians in a neighbouring country.

Aside from logistics, egos and images at stake.

Surprised this gets so little attention.

Guess Muslims fighting other Muslims is not a Hot Topic.


M

Fighting in the Middle East is considered De Rigeur. If they weren't fighting each other, we'd expect that they were too busy beating their wives, selling their girl children as slaves, or hanging homosexuals that day.

Regardless, it is unfortunate that people don't realize that the area does have strategic importance, and the upcoming war between Saud and Iran is important.

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Originally posted by mmiichael

Pretty interesting. Saudis fighting Iranians in a neighbouring country.

how do ya figure??

This is the Norm....

Do you know anything about the Middle East and their non-stop wars?

^^^My point proved. Thanks.

Originally posted by CanadianDream420

Originally posted by mmiichael

Pretty interesting. Saudis fighting Iranians in a neighbouring country.

how do ya figure??

This is the Norm....

Do you know anything about the Middle East and their non-stop wars?

Yes I know a lot about the ME and their constant tribal infighting.
When times are tough or just out of boredom go attack your neighbour. Good short term means of governance, bad long term.
Why the ME is still in the 8th Century.

The point made, maybe not clear, is that the Saudis are going one-on-one with Iran now. They usually prefer their confrontations done through proxies.

Saudis want self-sufficiency with dependence on the US primarily for the latest weapons technologies.


M

somewhat similar to the IRA - they gave up guns to pursue politics - to a resonable degree of succes - yet teh extremists formed the ultra violent continuity ira and the real ira ; somewhat similar here (although ofc the IRA was funed by americans so must have been ok)

Originally posted by Harlequin
somewhat similar to the IRA - they gave up guns to pursue politics - to a resonable degree of succes - yet teh extremists formed the ultra violent continuity ira and the real ira ; somewhat similar here (although ofc the IRA was funed by americans so must have been ok)

Too much Googling can be harmful to your understanding of world events.

The IRA represented the Catholic base that felt the Protestant English derived minority had disenfranched them and controlled an inordinate share of the wealth and power. This internal struggle has been repeated wordwide since time immemorial.

The US at some point providing support or finance does not mean they have any particular control. The US at different junctures has allied itself with hundreds of dissident groups even bin Laden's mujahadin when they fought the Russians in Afghanistan.

Alliances and special projects come and go. One mention in Wikipedia does not mean lifetime partnership. The US, like anyone else uses or abuses transient relationships based on situation and expediency.

Originally posted by Harlequin
a certain perspective on the subject of the IRA.

the ira directly targetted people like you and me - i lost family at Enniskillen so dont think i haven`t been touched by these animals.

represented the Catholic base

maybe in the 1970`s - but by the 1980`s, the catholic population had enough of them.

Sorry to hear that. I left Britain over 20 years ago. Still think of it as a Catholic vs Protestant conflict.

Mike

Originally posted by mmiichael
Too much Googling can be harmful to your understanding of world events.

The IRA represented the Catholic base that felt the Protestant English derived minority had disenfranched them and controlled an inordinate share of the wealth and power. This internal struggle has been repeated wordwide since time immemorial.

I live in NI, let me clarify some points for you

"PROTESTANT ENGLISH DERIVED MINORITY"- not sure where to start with that, NI has a majority British population, not "minority", also, they are not "ENGLISH" they are NORTHERN IRISH, with most having acnestry from Scotland SEVERAL CENTURIES earlier.

The IRA hijacked a debatable civil rights movement to conduct a poorly supported sectarian war on the border issue

whats so sad about the entire mess (even on going - and the RIRA kill cathloics now) is that the british went into to protect the catholics!

bad choices were made and look at the last 30 years

Originally posted by Harlequin
somewhat similar to the IRA - they gave up guns to pursue politics - to a resonable degree of succes - yet teh extremists formed the ultra violent continuity ira and the real ira ; somewhat similar here (although ofc the IRA was funed by americans so must have been ok)

My father remembers as a child family friends having funding parties to give to the IRA. In Toronto.

When saying that something is being funded by "Americans," one should keep in mind that it is often the private person who is doing the funding.

On the up side, Ireland is probably the last place in the World the extremist Muslims will go after.

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