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Topic started on 6-11-2009 @ 05:47 AM by Regenstorm
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Kids think Hitler was a 'football coach'
www.thesun.co.uk
 ONE in 20 British schoolkids thinks warmongering dictator Adolf Hitler was a German football coach, a shock survey has revealed.
The same number thought the Holocaust was a celebration at the end of the war.
One in six youngsters believed the notorious Auschwitz concentration camp was a theme park - and one in 12 thought the Blitz was a European clean-up
operation following World War II.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:47 AM by Regenstorm
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This is insane! Don't they get any history lessons in school? I think that it's a general problem. Education is getting worse and worse, not only
are kids learning only one side of the story, they get less and less educated and have almost no common knowledge or self awareness.
And what Hitler concerns, he brought education and self awareness. His methods were not the best but he was creating a well educated, modern and
"feel good society".
He was going forward, not backwards like we do these days.
www.thesun.co.uk...
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:49 AM by obamalivechat
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our education system was designed to fail. At least it seems like that.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:50 AM by srslyguyz
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i dont have kids yet, but when i do they will learn history and current events at home. i hope to home school my kids but if not they will be fully
aware not to trust there teachers and give them the corect version of things
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:01 AM by brando7
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After reading the headline I figured it was another sign of the horrible education system here in the states, but this is in the UK. By the way,
Auschwitz has my vote for worst theme park ever.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:04 AM by prevenge
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Originally posted by srslyguyz
i dont have kids yet, but when i do they will learn history and current events at home. i hope to home school my kids but if not they will be fully
aware not to trust there teachers and give them the corect version of things
Have your wife do the grammar bit.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:26 AM by ROBL240
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It doesnt surprise me. I see these idiots coming out of school on a yearly basis, and they dont even know that Ben Nevis is the UK's highest Mountain
so any hope of asking them what Norways Highest Peak (Galdhoppigen) or where you can find Sri Lanka is lost on them.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:30 AM by bigyin
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When I heard about this I thought it's a wind up. I can just imagine the kids answering the questions, knowing the right answer full well but thought
it was funnier to put down the most ridiculous answer.
Its what kids do.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:45 AM by radarloveguy
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.... and the modern teachers don't seem to know a lot
more than them .
apparently Chekhov [Anton] was not a famous Russian playwright
but a character on Star Trek !
I remember rote learning multiplication tables until nothing
could remove them from my brain .
Modern teaching will soon bring back a flat earth !!!
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:47 AM by Chadwickus
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Surveys are meant to garner this type of reaction
Further reading of the article shows that 2000 children between the ages of 9 and 11 were asked these questions.
So a few things stand out for me...
1. Do kids get taught WWII history at this age?
2. Was the quiz in the form of multiple questions? I find it odd that out of the 2000, 100 all thought Hitler was a football coach.
3. One in six think Auschwitz was an amusement park? Again multiple choice questions will glean these results.
Now having said all that, the aim of the survey is admirable and I agree that our youth need to know about these things, but at what age?
Is 9 too young to learn about genocide?
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:52 AM by vor78
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In fairness, its one in 20. How stupid is the bottom 5% in any society? Pretty damn stupid.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:58 AM by vox2442
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Originally posted by bigyin
When I heard about this I thought it's a wind up. I can just imagine the kids answering the questions, knowing the right answer full well but thought
it was funnier to put down the most ridiculous answer.
Its what kids do.
Kids? heh.
I did that then, and I still do it now. I don't think I've ever filled out a survey, questionnaire or similar honestly - including when I used to do
market research for money on the side.
It's even more fun when you're old enough to realize just how much you're screwing with the system when you tell them that you're 68 years old,
buy 20 video games a week, and have a disposable income over six figures.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:58 AM by radarloveguy
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I'm sure that 5% will be very successful
HIP HOP artists !!!!
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 09:54 AM by DjSharperimage
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it probably is a multiple choice kind of quiz;
How would these kids come up with the same answers?
or maybe the author just made it up;
or just asked 1 kid and wrote a story about it
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 09:57 AM by srslyguyz
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Originally posted by prevenge
Originally posted by srslyguyz
i dont have kids yet, but when i do they will learn history and current events at home. i hope to home school my kids but if not they will be fully
aware not to trust there teachers and give them the corect version of things
Have your wife do the grammar bit.
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i did really well in all subjects, but for some reason spelling has never clicked for me. oh well, ill just talk to my children, instead of emailing
them
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 10:06 AM by Alien Mind
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 10:13 AM by kick Flip
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Originally posted by Regenstorm
This is insane! Don't they get any history lessons in school?
Obviously not.... Although you may think the kids are dumb its really the adults over there. I mean how could you not teach your child or student one
of the most horrific events that ever occured? Or maybe they just didnt know?
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 10:14 AM by Goathief
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
Surveys are meant to garner this type of reaction
Further reading of the article shows that 2000 children between the ages of 9 and 11 were asked these questions.
So a few things stand out for me...
1. Do kids get taught WWII history at this age?
No they don't - that happens in secondary school from the around the age of 12 onwards. Ask primary school children about the Tudors and Henry VIII
and you will get far more accurate answers because that's in their curriculum.
2. Was the quiz in the form of multiple questions? I find it odd that out of the 2000, 100 all thought Hitler was a football coach.
I'd say blatantly so...
3. One in six think Auschwitz was an amusement park? Again multiple choice questions will glean these results.
See above.
Now having said all that, the aim of the survey is admirable and I agree that our youth need to know about these things, but at what age?
Is 9 too young to learn about genocide?
I'd say so. Do you really want to be showing children that age pictures/videos of rotting corpses, abused and emaciated people in Auschwitz?
Remember there will always be children playing the fool too, I know I did on multiple choice surveys (and other ones too) - Jedi as a recognised
religion ring any bells for anyone?
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 10:17 AM by GradyPhilpott
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The embarrassing findings are contained in a poll for the veterans' charity Erskine, which asked 2,000 kids aged nine to 11 about the two world
wars.
www.thesun.co.uk...
The polled children were 9-11.
One thing we need to remember is that WWII to these kids might as well be the Peloponnesian
War. The second thing is that in the US at least, kids don't start studying world history until high school or about ages 14-15.
I'm not sure I'd want kids of mine having to deal with the horrors of Nazi Germany at such young ages and I'm not sure why anyone would.
Of course, it was different when I was growing up with all the war movies and the WWII vets who were still active members of our communities--fathers,
school teachers, coaches, church members, etc.
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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 10:26 AM by djon01
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I agree we don't need to be showing all of the horrific pictures/footage from WWII/the holocaust, but it's a slippery slope, because it would seem
to me that hammering in how horrific these events were and how the CITIZENS who complied and said nothing and believed the nazi propaganda in Germany
were as responsible as anyone else for the atrocities would be the best way to ensure our youth don't fall into the same trap once the elders who
experienced it are all gone.
But we don't have to show cattle cars full of starving people to do that. that can come later.
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