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Swine flu spreads to Amazon rainforest, kills 7 Yanomamo




Topic started on 5-11-2009 @ 10:37 PM by apacheman

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CARACAS (Venezuela) — Swine flu has appeared among Venezuela’s Yanomami Indians, one of the largest isolated indigenous groups in the Amazon, and a doctor said on Wednesday that the virus is suspected in seven deaths, including six infants.

The deaths happened in forest villages near Venezuela’s border with Brazil over the past two-and-a-half weeks, said Raidan Bernade, a Venezuelan doctor on a team sent to contain the outbreak and treat the ill.

Bernade told AP that doctors confirmed that one of those who died had swine flu — a 35-year-old Yanomami woman who doctors believe was pregnant.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Swine flu has killed seven members of an endangered Amazonian tribe, an indigenous rights organisation says.

Survival International said several hundred members of the Yanomami tribe in Venezuela could be infected.

The Venezuelan government has yet to confirm the deaths but said that a team was in the region to investigate.

An outbreak among the isolated tribes of the Amazon could spread among the indigenous population very quickly and kill many, campaigners fear.

Survival International, a London-based organisation, says it may already be happening among the Yanomami in the border region between Venezuela and Brazil.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:37 PM by Hellmutt


I wonder how the flu got there. Btw, a plane crashed and survivors were saved by Amazon indians of the Matis tribe. Those in the plane were on a "vaccination campaign"...


Amazon Indians find plane crash survivors

Oct 30, 2009


Nine people survived a crash landing on a river in Brazil's Amazon rainforest after native Indians alerted authorities who dispatched a rescue mission, the government said on Friday.

The small military plane, which went missing on Thursday, was carrying four crew members and seven health officials on a vaccination campaign in remote areas of the jungle.

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The area is home to a handful of Indian tribes that have little contact with the outside world.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:58 PM by Seiko


Having less contact with the populace are they more apt to the severity of virii? It seems a shame that they can't seem to avoid us or our plagues.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:04 PM by anotherdad


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Thank you! That is a great post. I personally feel that these Isolated individuals would be the most at risk as there immune systems have never seen bacteria like this and thus the introduction would be deadly.


"Sometimes the worst things are done with the best of intentions."

[edit on 6-11-2009 by anotherdad]



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:31 PM by Vendric


This may get bad for them, I’m with all of you there immune systems are in no way ready to deal with this. Its ashamed that they cant just live there life’s with out us intruding in there world.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by Vendric]



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:42 PM by Hellmutt


The plane crashed a week before the BBC article. It crashed on October 29. A different tribe found the plane, but it could have spread from tribe to tribe. Unless this "vaccine campaign" was targeting the Yanamamo tribe and not the Matis tribe. If the plane was not on a "vaccine campaign", we could suspect that the indians might have gotten it from the passengers of the plane (by accident), but they were on a vaccination campaign. Did they vaccinate indians that never had the flu in the first place?



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:03 PM by zazzafrazz


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As always Hellmutt you are a true conspiracy master.
You research and uncover and rarely delve into "pop conspiracy"



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:44 PM by nixie_nox


I was saying on mutter that the article says that they need to do a medical intervention. It seems an excuse to remove a secluded tribe, infiltrate or influence them. What a crime.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:47 PM by nixie_nox


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Maybe next time they will leave the survivors there and keep the outsiders away altogether. Apparently there was another outbreak that killed one in five by the flu in 1980. Like others pointed out the immunity isn't there.

The article says a pregnant woman and six infants. UGH UGH UGH



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 06:53 PM by ragnarak


I remember some people saying getting the flu vaccines can end up giving you the flu. Same go for the Swine flu? What if the people saved ended up jabbing a few of the locals, or the locals ended up jabbing themselves? Very odd that a remote group gets this unless it's in the air, water, food, or someone else brought it to them somehow, which may be unlikely considering how remote they are. Interesting.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 07:13 PM by Divinorumus


Wow, it found its way into a remote location, eh? Makes ya wonder if that junk could get into the oceans too and cause everything to die and collapse. Hum. Does anyone know if Charley the tuna is immune? What about plankton? Maybe that stuff doesn't survive in salty water. Maybe it can self-modify so it can. Scary.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 07:25 AM by nixie_nox


Things people don't understand about the flu vaccine is that the vaccine only vaccinates you against that strain for that year. So people think they get the flu vaccine and it gave them the flu, but what it was is that 1) you may have already had the flu, the vaccine takes 2-3 to work. Or 2) you got a different flu.



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 07:31 PM by Hellmutt


The Amazonas is not the only remote place to be hit by flu.


www.abovetopsecret.com... (Originally posted by CINY8)

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Suspected swine flu is sweeping a traditional Eskimo whaling village on a remote Alaska island — prompting an urgent medical mission to deliver help.


"Diomede is probably the most isolated place in the United States right now," said David Head, a doctor involved in the effort. "We thought it would be better to go out there and just vaccinate people."


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