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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:39 PM by Stormdancer777
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Leading rationing board and members have already been appointed,


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:42 PM by HotSauce
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Really it is just common sense and having a realistic view of past government performance. It is not beng brainwashed by the right wing media.

Medicare = huge cost overruns and huge unfunded liablilities in the future.

Medicaid = huge cost overruns and huge unfunded liablilities in the future.

Social Securty = huge cost overruns and huge unfunded liablilities in the future.

Truth is that there is probably a 90% chance that universal government run healthcare will become even more expensive than the inurance companies runnng it. Plus, the beautiful things with insurance companies is it is a choice not a law. I thought you liberals loved your choice.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:43 PM by HotSauce
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One more thing. Explain to me how we are going to pay for healthcare for everyone , pay down the deficit, and compete in a global marketplace?


reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 10:43 AM by AllexxisF1
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One more thing. Explain to me how we are going to pay for healthcare for everyone , pay down the deficit, and compete in a global marketplace?


Sure.

*If we had a single payer system...

People would still be paying premiums like they do today for private insurance companies. The citizen run insurance company would float on their own premiums like every other privatised insurance company does. Except that our new company is much larger than anyone of the 184 insurance companies out there so the premiums will be much cheaper.

Now that people are covered by the single payer system they can go see their doctor when they get the sniffles instead of when they had no insurance and ended up in the emergency room with pneumonia. That cost of having no health insurance would not be put on the State tax payers and the rising cost of health care services. Because when you can't pay someone else has to.

Here is the best part. Since premiums are much cheaper businesses no longer have to flip the bill for paying half their employees health care. Literally overnight companies would be profitable. When Ford, Microsoft, etc. don't have to pay for health care for their employees they can use the money to buy new equipment and hire more workers. Stocks will go up and their would be a growth in our economy. People would be healthier and be more productive.

That and companies would keep their businesses here or even better move them back because they would have less operating costs.

Moreover you know that Tort reform that Republicans keep railing about, well that costs would come down too. Because if everyone is covered for everything there is no need to sue for such high amounts because the person's care is already covered.

That is why every single westernized nation has had a single payer system for over 40 years now. Because it is the cheapest and most effective. The only losers in this are the health insurance companies.

The public option in the house now needs to be beefed up to allow anyone who wants to join. That is the crux to get this country profitable again and bring down the bloody deficit.

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