The Cost of our Wars since 2001, page 1
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Topic started on 5-11-2009 @ 08:30 PM by David9176
Since 2001, we have been in a long lasting war in Iraq and Afghanistan. But how much debt has it accrued?

I keep hearing so much screaming about our National debt and liabilities thrown upon our children....with which I agree with 100 percent. The debt is completely out of control and has been for a long time and I've criticized it since I first starting visiting ATS.


Nearly 1 Trillion dollars......according to this site.

costofwar.com...

Almost 700 billion for Iraq....230 billion for Afghanistan. I don't actually believe these numbers are accurate as I think they are much higher.

We've lost nearly 6000 soldiers since 2001. That is 166,666,666 dollars per life lost according to these numbers.

Don't scream about the debt and deficits and ignore the cost of war...which by the way...HAS NO END SIGHT.


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:43 PM by David9176
reply to post by badgerprints





Obama spent (with interest) more than that on a war against the states in 8 months. Twisted bit of logic that someone would oppose the first and support the second.


It works the same vice versa as well. Both Dems and Reps have been voting for an passing large military spending bills. No party...and neither administration...is immune.

We can't stop our deficits if we don't end the wars people. Do you have the money to pay for it? I know I don't.



reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 12:04 AM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by badgerprints



There's a big difference of course. Bush' eight trillion has resulted in well over a million dead, millions more homeless, thousands of dead Americans, thousands of disabled Americans, two destroyed countries with nothing resembling an economy, and a lessening of American prestige and security in the world.

Obama's TWO has, so far, not destroyed any countries, produced any Homeless, killed any people, American or otherwise, disabled any other people - American or otherwise again - and has had at worst a neutral impact om American prestige and security, and has at best improved both. Also it's six trillion less than what Bush spent on all that crap.

But I suppose information is to you what garlic is to vampires. HISSSSSSSS!


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 12:07 AM by spellbound
reply to post by David9176



Yes, there is always money for wars, but no money to save the starving.

As I said in the recent post, humans are pretty evil.

They would kill their fellowman rather than feeding him.



reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 12:48 AM by dodadoom
Just one lil' ol post:

The 10 Most Brazen War Profiteers



In early 2005 CIA officials told the Washington Post that at least 50 percent of its estimated $40 billion budget for that year would go to private contractors, an astonishing figure that suggests that concerns raised about outsourcing intelligence have barely registered at the policymaking levels....
Titan, on the other hand, has so far escaped any serious consequences for its problems (in early 2005, it pleaded guilty to three felony international bribery charges and agreed to pay a record $28.5 million Foreign Corrupt Practices Act penalty). The company's contract with the Army has been extended numerous times and is currently worth over $1 billion...
The San Francisco-based construction and engineering giant received one of the largest no-bid contracts -- worth $2.4 billion -- to help coordinate and rebuild a large part of Iraq's infrastructure. But the company's reconstruction failures range from shoddy school repairs to failing to finish a large hospital in Basra on time and within budget....
The General Accounting Office (GAO) estimates 48,000 private security and military contractors (PMCs) are stationed in Iraq. The Pentagon's insistence on keeping a lid on military force requirements (thereby avoiding the need for a draft) is one reason for that astronomical growth, which has boosted the fortunes of the "corporate warriors" so much that observers project the industry will be a $200 billion per year business by 2010.

www.alternet.org...
I could fill an entire thread with this info, but I'm getting ill thinking of all
the dead that gave their lives for profits! Wheeee!
War is big bidness! Ain't it peachy!


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:17 AM by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by David9176
It works the same vice versa as well. Both Dems and Reps have been voting for an passing large military spending bills.


That is so true. Both sides voted in support of the war in Iraq as well aside from afew Dems and one republican. Hillary Clinton and Kerry both supported the war before they opposed it. It is unbelievable..

You know the military increase on Military expenditure over the last 8years was $1 trillion?? And that was increase and excluded Iraq.
news.bbc.co.uk...

I really sigh at many of those crying out about "fiscal responsibility" because when those military bills went through, I didnt hear anything.

I admit I am one of those that has supported Afghanistan since 9/11, I am one of those who do believe we were attacked by the Taliban and that we have duty to hunt those pigs out of Afghanistan after what they did.... admittedly it is rather complicated as to where I stand for withdrawal.... and then again I look at the families suffering... but then how do avenge those that has suffered during 9/11? It seems the major point to disgree with the war on this website is one this entire 9/11 conspiracy and Im sorry I dont buy it.... I cannot stand to see those pigs run free if we were to withdraw from afghanistan.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:20 AM by Southern Guardian
reply to post by dodadoom



Ya know what dodadoom... they say war is necessary for the survival of the western economy..... I couldnt image something as horrible as that statement being true....



reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:25 AM by dodadoom
reply to post by Southern Guardian



SG, you are very correct, it takes two to tango properly.

There was never an exit "strategery"!
Was never, our intention to leave. Ever!
Wonder how many still don't even realize that?
Apparently its a big shocker to most we're still there.
Even if the people demanded it! (which they won't of course)

Mission accomplished? Uh huh. Ya.....


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:29 AM by dodadoom
reply to post by Southern Guardian



All I can say is, all's fair in love and war!
Obviously.

I wont drag it out right now but I read war
is often used as an economic stimulator.
Who's economy is stimulated is what I want to know!

Nah....could never happen I'm sure anyway.
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