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Ronald Reagan's Obsession With An Alien Invasion


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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 02:08 PM by Wormwood Squirm


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No offense to you intended but I have seen that speech chopped over and over again trying to relate it to some Alien presence and it is not right.

He is talking about the sad state of the world to the reps of the UN. He is talking hypothetically and in no way implying aliens exist.

He was trying to provide an example that would make the reps think about all standing together to do good and end wars and such.

I am sorry if you take offense but your topic only further perverts his intentions thus enabling more and more misunderstanding of his point. All in an effort to get people talking about aliens when Reagan's point was to create solidarity and togetherness to fight the worlds problems.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 02:19 PM by LiveForever8


Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
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No offense to you intended but I have seen that speech chopped over and over again trying to relate it to some Alien presence and it is not right.

He is talking about the sad state of the world to the reps of the UN. He is talking hypothetically and in no way implying aliens exist.

He was trying to provide an example that would make the reps think about all standing together to do good and end wars and such.

I am sorry if you take offense but your topic only further perverts his intentions thus enabling more and more misunderstanding of his point. All in an effort to get people talking about aliens when Reagan's point was to create solidarity and togetherness to fight the worlds problems.



I was not offended......see?

And what you say is merely your opinion. The only one who knows what he really meant is Reagan himself.

I am fully aware of the context of the speech and its hypothetical meaning, but his choice of words and personal experiences make me think twice.

There is enough there for me to ask a few questions though.

Peace.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 02:25 PM by Wormwood Squirm


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I love the topic and I am often looking for a smoking gun to an alien presence through videos, searches, reading and more. I come across Reagan's statement a little too often in all the UFO mess. Usually with all the rest chopped out except "an Alien Presence already among us". This is not right.

I have a deep respect for your posts LiveForever8 and look forward to your topics but had to chime in here.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 02:34 PM by LiveForever8


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I understand where your coming from and can see your point. It can easily be misconstrued, but i made sure to include the follow up statement as not to mislead.

Hey, chime away, that is why we are all here, to question the unanswerable

Peace.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:38 PM by DoomsdayRex


Originally posted by karl 12
So I don't think he's referring to human beings as you're suggesting.



You completely missed the point. You are an astute guy, Karl, I'm very surprised. No where was I saying he was referring to a human threat rather using a hypothetical outside threat to point out that despite our difference, we live on the same planet, we are all humans and want the same things.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:40 PM by DoomsdayRex


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I think your thirst for proof has handicapped your ability to recognize allegory and analogy.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:02 PM by LiveForever8


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I disagree.


Its very easy to take something and turn it into something else. But i enjoy reading between the lines and thinking alternatively.



I have no 'thirst' as you put it and i am not handicapped by it. I merely try to pose alternative possibilities to get people thinking.

This doesn't mean i even believe the theories i pose, i just enjoy looking into them.

Mind...parachute...open...

Peace.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 05:47 PM by Triple_helixxx


We all want proof..

and then when something seems so sure...and it points us in the right direction of proof..

we start to question ourselves..and say "oh, no that can't be right"

And yet it is.

If you can't take yourself seriously, how can someone take you seriously?
And as a group, if we continue this arrogance..how can we even be taken seriously anyway.


..you know what he was implying.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 10:16 PM by GobbledokTChipeater


I think some of you may have taken the quote wrong. What Reagan is saying is (I will rephrase): 'How quickly our differences would vanish if facing an otherworldly alien threat, why then do they not vanish to face the alien threat of war?'.

I don't think there's any ambiguity in his statement, just that some people have read it wrong.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 11:25 PM by MrAndy


Reagan did say all of this, but he's unlikely to have known very much, he was not a bright man, he was just the perfect puppet that the corporations needed. His thinking may have been purely from a hollywood perspective, trying to think of a scenario that would have brought the world together. George H.W. Bush, his vice president and successor, likely knew much, much more than Reagan, and possibly more than any President after him.



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 11:42 PM by governmentsecrets


i think a president of the united states of america referencing aliens on more than one occasion is odd. it reminds me of the story about Jackie Gleason being shown an alien by richard nixon. if nixon had access to it, then i'm sure ol' Ronnie would have also.
www.rense.com...



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