reply to post by mmiichael
Look, let's cut the crap. I'm Jewish, I'm not a Zionist or a Mossad agent. 'Zionist' is the word chosen by antisemites on this board to push
their vile hatemongering but keep under the wire of the rules.
Well my friend I don’t know about anyone else but I am first, foremost and always a human being!
I like to think of myself as a Pirate by the way in a romantic type of whimsical way but I sure didn’t cry a page
or two back when people started sullying the roguish nature of knaves, scoundrels and buccaneers.
Which pretty much goes to show people that politics is all about knocking one group down a rung on the ladder,
as opposed to actually moving up the ladder.
Politics and religious politics in particular fraught with sanctimonious people with holier than thou circular logic is about irretraceable positions
of people fixed in their mindsets in written in stone ways.
Rather than try to evolve in their positions and move up the ladder they simply attempt to move the ladder itself!
This sect belongs on this wrung, this sect belongs on that wrung, and if one sect appears to be on the wrong rung they will move heaven and earth to
move the ladder but not evolve or progress in their positions.
This is the problem with books and concepts written in stone.
There are many posters posting to this thread doing exactly what you imagine is being done wrongfully against the Zionists. But they are doing the
exact same thing in vilifying Muslims with the same cavalier attitudes and slanderous intent you imagine is being done to the Zionists.
Zionism is a word by the way. The definition of Zionism as you wish to proffer it is just part of the obscene word games that constitute the War on
Like a lot of posters to the thread playing word games where adjectives and sometimes verbs are used to make their cases, illustrate their position,
gloss over the lack of facts the words chosen become all about creating a perspective in the mind’s eye of reader, painting an illusion that belies
facts by attempting to switch the definition of the word.
There are two sides to every coin and somewhere in between lies the truth friend Michael.
The truth is that ATS is a C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y Internet Site. Its where critically minded people come as a preferred cyber destination to discuss
Early on in the thread a number of concerned AMERICANS were attempting to do just that.
Whenever something involves a Muslim and violence that brings out the Zionists, the Zionists aren’t all Jews just ask Vice President Joe Biden who
isn’t Jewish and claims to be a Zionist for POLITICAL purposes!
In fact some Zionists aren’t even religious. Many of the Zionist Terrorists who founded the rogue nation of Israel were in fact atheists.
When I say Zionist Terrorists it’s because the Encyclopedias and History Books define a hardcore tight nit, murderously committed group of men who
shared the Zionist ideology as terrorists because of the many violent acts that they committed against British, Arab, Jews and others to gain de facto
control over Palestine.
No credible Historian refutes this or denies this and it puts Zionists in no small quandary when arguing for Muslim attrition based on radical and
violent elements within Islam with political goals of their own.
Of course the average Jew just like the average Muslim just like the average Christian is not personally violent.
Yet Jews, Muslims and Christians alike who aren’t violent themselves sometimes and often do support political organizations and governments that are
by sharing their ideology or condoning their ideology or not opposing their ideology in exchange for validation and absolution.
In large part the argument that the Zionists attempt to put forth is that all Muslims support the ideology of Islam and condone violent Jihads carried
out on non-Muslims.
In large part this is because of an instilled mindset within the larger Jewish community to never publicly go against
Israeli politics or what the Anti-Defamation League, B’nai B’rith, the Jewish Defense League, and the American Israeli Political Action Committee
formulate as policy.
They do a good job at adhering to those guiding principals and attitudes so good in fact that even while many of them are sanctimonious and seek
additional rights for Jews in places like the United States while trampling on the rights of non-Jews most specifically the freedom to speak openly
and unmolested in regards to American Foreign Policy regarding Israel by using little coined words like anti-Semite.
One of the problems with the religious is because their ideologies are written in stone they can’t learn from their mistakes. Instead they have to
shove their own mistakes down everyone else’s throats and try to convince them through word games that it wasn’t a mistake.
This infuriates people at times. I have built thriving businesses time after time in multiple fields by simply being able to admit my mistakes as I
learned the business and grew them. Important clients that I one rare occasion dropped the ball on would call or visit to confront me on the
inconvenience of my failure expecting fully to hear
Me attempt to put it off on someone else. No sir I would say, I screwed up, I totally dropped the ball and the result
Of it was the inconvenience you are here to complain about. I completely understand why you are upset and I sure don’t blame you! I would be upset
too, and I am in fact upset as well at myself for dropping the ball on you and making this mistake.
Of course that disarms people. They expect you to deny it and they expect you to deflect away from it. The last thing they expect you is to be honest
and humble and forthcoming. Not once, not once has that not engendered renewed respect and a desire to continue to do business with me, because where
I might have made a mistake and dropped the ball I proved myself credible none the less.
Sadly for Israel and the Jews that Zionist Cabal that plans its strategy can never admit it’s own mistakes.
Operation Cast Lead was a huge mistake that shocked and appalled the world. It won’t be the first mistake and it won’t be the last mistake Israel
run by the Zionists that even many Jews despise makes, because Israel and the Zionists can never admit their mistakes. They can seemingly never be
that credible and humble entity that says in hindsight and reflection that was a mistake and a bad idea.
Instead they have to deflect away from their mistakes, just like many posters to this thread deflect away when they have to answer charges in regards
to Israeli and Zionist terrorism after leveling one unrelated accusation of Muslim terrorism after another that has nothing to do with the events at
Ft. Hood but has everything to do with a shell game of keeping people’s eyes focused on where you want them to believe the ball really is.
When challenged about that they always reply this background regarding Islamic Terrorism is necessary so you can understand how Major Hassan as a
Muslim did this alleged crime and it’s terrorism.
That then makes understanding the roots of modern day Muslim Terrorism critical and it’s all rooted in Zionist terrorism.
When you probe and scratch deep enough under the surface at the bottom there always lays Zionist actions and thefts and murders and terrorism that led
to and created it all.
The Zionists then get their feelings hurt because no matter how sanctimonious or holier than thou they wish to appear to be to gain some moral high
ground they NEVER have an answer for all the well documented historical facts of Zionist Terrorism in the Middle East or the fact that while they want
to vilify Islamic Terrorists, the Zionists revere their own known Terrorists like Yitzhak Shamir and consider them elder Statesmen and make them Prime
Ministers. Kill a U.N. Special Envoy in America you are going to be executed or spend your life in jail. Kill a U.N. Special Envoy in Israel as a
Zionist Terrorist and you are going to be elected Prime Minister one day.
Of course then all the Zionists can do is deflect away from the root causes of terrorism and their own terrorist acts and how they really view it when
Zionists commit terrorist acts.
So they then try little child domination by emotion tactics I am outraged I am offended, this has gone too far. Why?
Because they can’t admit their mistakes, as it’s considered politically incorrect to do so. In deed it’s political suicide for the Zionists to
admit their mistakes because while actions and facts clearly demonstrate that not only are Zionist Terrorist no different than Islamic Terrorists in
the type of violence and barbarity they will employ they are also the root cause of Islamic Terrorism as well.
So they play word games, deflection, and try to emotionally dominate a debate to keep from ever having to be responsible, culpable and by extension
As usual it’s the Zionist who sought to exploit the Muslim angle to the Ft. Hood Shootings to do exactly what they are now crying is being done to
them in slandering every Muslim and trying to misconstrue every aspect of Islam that they possibly can to vilify it which in many ways is just
deflection to keep eyes off of the Zionist politics and actions that have so upset the Islamic world.
The fact remains the same many Americans are tired of it, see right through it and are sick to death of paying our tax dollars to support this
insanity and hate the fact that hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims are being murdered and maimed each year with the Zionist cheering on every
death and looking for every opportunity to exploit to set the stage for more.
Emotional domination is for children.
Logic is for grownups.
[edit on 19/11/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]