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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 08:07 PM by JJay55
Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by dooper

The US has done nothing wrong here. The muslims are attacking every major power on planet Earth including China, Russia, UK, India, Spain. They have been on the attack for 1,400 years and this Holy War enabled them to take the whole of Persia, Iraq and Syria, turkey and some Balkans, all of North Africa and much of southern Russia. Please the US has done nothing here other than exist

Some people can see this clearly. Others will apologize for Islam and make excuses for muslims who kill Americans. Ironically, muslims don't need anyone to make excuses for them or apologize for them, they will carry on the murder and violence all by themselves as proven over and over. It's very sad.


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 08:09 PM by jerico65
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Well, make it 14 dead. This d-bag killed a pregnant woman.


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 09:13 PM by Hemisphere
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Hemisphere

Hemisphere, I don't know why this SOB's parents didn't stay home, and I really don't care. They flee the misery of Islam, and then bring it over here. You're probably right in assuming a bit of blowback from our overseas adventures.



Dooper, I am an American because my ancestors fled evil and injustice of various natures. If their countries of origin were lands of equal opportunity they never would have left. This misfit's parents were likely in the same boat with one very important distinction, they brought the evil they were fleeing with them in the form of violence encouraging religious texts. We agree, they brought the misery here.

Other groups arriving here have been vetted/persecuted to some extent early on. Right or wrong it happened and still happens. I don't recall historical instances of similar violent retaliation from individuals within these other groups. It might have happened but I don't recall. One thing is for sure the other groups didn't have the scriptural encouragement to do so.

The point of my earlier post is that I think there is a lot of truth to go around within this thread. One, our foreign policy likely has brought some of this on. Two, their books encourage this type of action. Those two things do not cancel each other out. I don't think we disagree on much.


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 09:15 PM by EMPIRE
reply to post by JJay55


You obviously don't like reading. You said the following:

Like the boxer Muhammed Ali, this guy is not allowed to fight other muslims. And he can use any means necessary to not fight other muslims according to Islamic law.


What I'm asking is did the same apply to Mike Tyson when he was muslim and had a boxing match with another muslim? I mean you profess to be an expert in Islam, something you've yet to actually prove, yet you're asking me how my question is related to the topic or Islam.

R-E-A-D your own words and then get back to me.



[edit on 7-11-2009 by EMPIRE]


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 10:11 PM by nenothtu
reply to post by JJay55


Probably not the best argument you could have made. CAIR are well known apologists and facilitators of radical muslims and their acts.

EVEN CAIR condemn this, even WITH their known background and affiliations.

Like I said, probably not the best argument you could have made. At least I HOPE it ain't the best you've got.



reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 01:15 AM by nenothtu
reply to post by robatmj12


It's not that we don't like your ideas, it's that we can't figure out what the devil they are, to know if we like them or not.

Paragraphs. Capitalization. Punctuation. Organization. These are your friends when trying to get an idea across.

West Virginia.

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Edit to add: If you're trying to say "shoot him", I personally think that would be a tad too kind, and have other ideas as to what should be his eventual disposition.

But that's just me. Probably a good thing I don't run this planet.



[edit on 2009/11/8 by nenothtu]


reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 06:43 AM by JJay55
reply to post by woodwytch

I'm simply stating facts about Islam. The show was started by those who are opposing me and making this about racism. Name them instead of me. They are agent provacateurs and get some sick joy of picking on the girl. Very typical characteristic of CAIR. Thanks.

I educate in crisis management and counter terrorism. This incident falls directly into that catagory. Once we understand that this was a typical attack by a muslim carrying out his mission of fard ayn then we can move on to healing. There should be no question that Islam is fulfilling their plan and how it is playing out. This incident is only a small portion. It should be a wake up call for every American to wake up and become educated about 1. the motivation 2. the means 3. the results.

Good luck to all. Be safe.


reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 06:59 AM by woodwytch
reply to post by JJay55


Hey there JJay55,

I just u2u'd you to prevent derailing the thread.

So ... that said do you have any updated news about the injured or the shooter ?

Woody

Edit to add; Oops, just saw your post 'Libertygal' ... interesting !

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