Something strange in the book of Enoch- 'The Watchers'? The secrets presrved in heaven...., page
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Topic started on 5-11-2009 @ 12:57 PM by jinx880101
Doesn't really make sense does it? I discovered the book of Enoch & couldn't take my eyes off it. Suddenly I noticed I had been reading for 4 hours straight...
This book seriously contains some of the strangest and amazing things I have ever read from a historical point of view. Being skeptical about religion itself, this is extremely interesting to me, regarding the true story of the Nephilim & the "secrets" that are to be kept from human kind. Those by the way, where the words coming out of God's mouth.

So, I have a question. If God's angels are holy & perfect, why does their mixing of their bloodline mixed with that of a human cause such an evil bloodthirsty creature?

The Book of Enoch - The Watchers.
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Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which 7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the 9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins.


What are these secrets? & How did these 'good' angels, come across all these sinful deeds? You would think they are pure...

"You have been in heaven, but all the mysteries had not yet been revealed to you, and you knew worthless ones, and these in the hardness of your hearts you have made known to the women, and through these mysteries women and men work much evil on earth."


12 the height and towards the depth. And beyond that abyss I saw a place which had no firmament of the heaven above, and no firmly founded earth beneath it: there was no water upon it, and no
13 birds, but it was a waste and horrible place. I saw there seven stars like great burning mountains,
14 and to me, when I inquired regarding them, The angel said: [color=Navy]'This place is the end of heaven and earth: this has become a prison for the stars and the host of heaven. [/color]
15 And the stars which roll over the fire are they which have transgressed the commandment of the Lord in the beginning of 16 their rising, because they did not come forth at their appointed times. And He was wroth with them, and bound them till the time when their guilt should be consummated (even) for ten thousand years.'


And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqlel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
Chapter 7
1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms
2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they
3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed
4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against
5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
6 fish, and to [color=Navy]devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood.[/color] Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.




1 And He answered and said to me, and I heard His voice: 'Fear not, Enoch, thou righteous
2 man and scribe of righteousness: approach hither and hear my voice. And go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them: "You should intercede" for men, and not men
3 for you: Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children
4 of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die
5 and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget
6 children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly
7 spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.
8 And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon
9 the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin;
10 they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]
11 And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless 12 hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.




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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 01:08 PM by tojfrd7931
OH wow... that is so strange... I hope I dont have nightmares tonight.



reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 01:44 PM by ljib777
Now tie in with what you have read from the Book of Enoch with the Gospels.

Matthew 8:28-32
And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no pass by that way.

And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? Art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

And there was a good way off from them an herd of many SWINE feeding.
So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of SWINE.

And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of SWINE: and behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.

Also read Matthew 12:22-30 43-45

Matthew 13:37-41 Read the whole parable explanation.
He answered and said unto them, He that sows the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvestis the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;..

Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Matthew 25:41 Read 31-46
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels;

Also read Gensis 6 Isaiah 6; Ezekiel 1, 10, Daniel 10 There are many more references in the scriptures that will help you get a clear understanding between Angels; the good and the bad, and also Jesus, BEFORE He was manifested in the flesh. As you will see Him in Daniel chapter 10.

Soon the spiritual world will meet the physical world, and it is going to be shocking. But 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 will happen and then we will see Revelation 9 Which is the 5th and 6th trumpet. Not to mention the 6th seal first btw.

Also if you will notice the 5th Seal and the 5th trumpet.. relation to V ??
Along with the SWINE FLU?? I do not find these small coincidences.

Hope this helps.


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 02:12 PM by Ophiuchus 13
Originally posted by jinx880101
Doesn't really make sense does it? I discovered the book of Enoch & couldn't take my eyes off it. Suddenly I noticed I had been reading for 4 hours straight...
This book seriously contains some of the strangest and amazing things I have ever read from a historical point of view. Being skeptical about religion itself, this is extremely interesting to me, regarding the true story of the Nephilim & the "secrets" that are to be kept from human kind. Those by the way, where the words coming out of God's mouth.

So, I have a question. If God's angels are holy & perfect, why does their mixing of their bloodline mixed with that of a human cause such an evil bloodthirsty creature?




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I first want to congradulate you on finding information on ENOCH hard to find. As far as why are these creations so bad GOD DID NOT MAKE THE NEPHILIM THE WATCHERS DID (another creation by GOD making living creations) , its because the WATCHERS WERE created in another realm to be WATCHERS/PROTECTORS from???? OVER HUMANITY not to interact sexually and create offspring that are both of ETERNAL EXISTANCE AND POSSESS A flesh that dies, hard to mix in 1 creature a non dying and dying THING. Which made some I strongly say some of the NEPHILIM insane with an unimaginable hunger for FLESH. They would even eat each other for they knew no better. These creatures the NEPHILIM and their parenting WATCHERS since they cannot die are currently LOCKED IN THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND are WHAT SOME OF YOU KNOW AS THE **FALLEN ANGELS***- locked NOT in HELL-NOT HADES-NOT THE ABYSSFUL FLAME NOPE THEY ARE BONDED IN THE BOTTOMLESS PIT FOR LATER USAGE as CLEANERS OF the MESS THAT HAS OCCURED DOWN ON EARTH. *ABBADON* WILL FREE THEM EVENTUALLY on EARTH.

AGAIN CONGRATS FOR FINDING YOUR KNOWLEDGE it should help you to see that YES EARTH has encountered other creatures FROM -THE HEAVENS - ABOVE - SPACE WHATEVER YOU PREFER TO CALL IT.

s&F for your efforts FRIEND. GREAT KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE FOUND AMEN ALLMEN***




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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 02:34 PM by Echtelion
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Go Satan... errr Shemyazaz! Master of all profanity, insurgent and teacher of mankind!



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 04:38 PM by serbsta
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Sitchin is a fraud.

reply to post by jinx880101



The Book of Enoch is by far one of the most interesting things i've ever read aswell. One thing i've learnt though, not only with the Book of Enoch, is that it could all just be a figment of ones imagination. I like to keep that in mind sometimes, but maybe that's just me.

Cheers.


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 04:38 PM by Bnmssnit
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You were led to that particular passage for a reason! An awakening message perhaps. I suggest study,restudy ,pray and ask...in time you will recieve ....could there also be a connection here w the Pleides?



reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 05:01 PM by AnonymousMoose
The Book of Enoch is a part of what is called the Pseudepigraphic texts. These are books that not a part of the normal Holy Bible..they aren't even a part of the Apocrypha. The Holy Bible is made of up various books that were studied and deemed to be original and God-inspired. The Apocryphal books are books that have questionable authorship, or wrong details...such as the Book of Maccabees containing wrong dates to the Maccabeean revolt. They are not part of most Bibles, however the Catholics added the Apocrypha to their Bibles as reference and history, and as a way to accuse non-Catholics of being against their Bible.
Pseudepigraphic books are either considered fake, or their origins are undetermined by scholars. Many are considered to have been merely the works of fiction, similar to some scholars a thousand years from now finding copies of the 'Left Behind' books or similar Christian fiction books and deeming them authentic Biblical texts. The vast majority of Bibles, including Catholic Bibles do not contain these books...

However with all this said, it seems the Book of Enoch is quoted in the New Testament, and scholars believe it was well known to Jews in the First Century. Whether or not it was considered a great fictional story or considered the words of God we will never know. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church considers the Book of Enoch to be canonical [a part of the regular God-inspired Bible].

It's important to keep that in mind when reading the Pseudepigraphic or Apocryphal books, they are not the words of God. They do over us historical reference and a great look into the mindset of those living in those days. I bet there is some truth in the Book of Enoch however, as the Nephilim are mentioned in the true Bible...I myself believe they are demons [fallen angels] that slept with human women and created a beastly offspring that terrorized people thousands of years ago...I don't think it took long for the demons and Satan to realize that creating giants and scary creatures didn't influence the people to turn against God like they wanted, and now work 'behind the scenes' so to say, influencing people through drugs, entertainment, sex, government power, etc.

S&F for bringing these texts to light, I enjoyed reading up on them as it's been a while since I've gone through the other texts



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 05:08 PM by kick Flip
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So says the version you have been taught. What gives you the right to deny a book witch was written long before the bible we know today? You need to question your beliefs as does everyone on earth. Without question, ignorance will always conquer mankind. Remember, truth will always come forth whether it be different from the truth's you know or the truths that are real.
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