reply to post by Stormdancer777
Are you sure that you are not misunderstanding this? My take is that anyone who chooses to have an elective abortion is then rated, and is then forced
to a higher premium? Not everyone pays it.
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Death Panel,
Round two........................ Ding!
Once again, people who are against real reform, read portions of the bill and see what they want to see.
death panels
mandatory abortions
mandatory abortion premiums
rationing
socialism
nazis
Fortunately, none of those things is real or even implied in any of the house bills.
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Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by jimmyx
Really...? You justify paying to kill a baby rather than to keep one alive in the name of .... preventing a child from suffering?
For those of you who claim it is in good conscience to kill before a person is able to suffer, can I ask you why your parents didn't abort?
no i'm saying your a hypocrite, if you do not work to first save children that are already born from dieing, not suffering, but dieing. it's that
simple.
and my mother had an abortion back in the late 40's, because she had complications and she would have died. and i wouldn't have been born, if she
had died. she had it done in illinois by a old doctor, who at that time was preforming them in a very discreet manner. back then it was called "a
womans problem" to keep it away from the men and societial gossip that could destroy a womans reputation, no matter what medical reason there was.
she was one of the lucky ones that had a doctor there to preform it. back then, it was illegal and alot of women died from complications of pregnancy,
and left kids that were already born, without a mother.
[edit on 5-11-2009 by jimmyx]
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reply to post by mythatsabigprobe
Actually every state have programs for low income families the program in Ga for children is Peachtree, it goes by various names.
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Originally posted by Bored To Tears
It shouldn't matter if it is a womans choice to have an abortion, thats all fine and good. If Johnny Catholic believes abortions are against his
beliefs then how are you going to force him to pay for one?
Oh Jeez. We are paying for things we disagree with all the time! Unnecessary wars, bank bailouts and even "protection money" to Afghan president's
brother.
This is relatively insignificant compared to all other waste against our beliefs. For example, some may believe that MJ should be legalized, however
they still must support financially all those penitentiaries for people serving time for MJ-related offenses.
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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- With a new statement released today from the White House, President Barack Obama finally officially put his
imprimatur on the House health care bill that contains massive abortion funding. Obama has previously been criticized for saying he wanted no abortion
funding but lobbying for the bill.
Now, with the new statement from his administration, Obama is officially on record supporting the bill, HR 3962, and its abortion funding
components.
"The Administration strongly supports House passage of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act, a bill that represents a critical
milestone in the effort to reform our health care system," the administration said in a statement for Obama.
"The Administration looks forward to continuing to work with the Congress on this legislation and urges quick action on this landmark bill," it
said.
The statement said the bill "meets the President’s criteria for health insurance reform" but makes no mention of abortion.
The statement also says Obama "is pleased that the bill includes a public health insurance option offered in an exchange" -- even though that is one
abortion-funding component of the bill.
The legislation sets up abortion funding in two ways -- first, it sets up the public option. That is a government-run health care plan that will pay
for abortions. Secondly, the bill gives members of the public affordability credits that can be used to pay for abortions.
Supporting a bill with massive abortion funding directly undercuts Obama's pledge in September to craft a health care bill that doesn't do so.
During an address to Congress in September, Obama said, "One more misunderstanding I want to clear up -- under our plan, no federal dollars will be
used to fund abortions."
Leading pro-life organizations say Obama is violating his pledge to Congress and the American people to support health care reform that is abortion
neutral.
www.lifenews.com...
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