Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium, page 1

Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium

Health care reform should not be used as an opportunity to use federal funds to pay for elective abortions. Health reform should be an opportunity to protect human life - not end it.

Unfortunately, Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page government takeover of health care does just that. On line 17, p. 110, section 222 under “Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run plan. The Speaker’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions.

What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run plan. It’s right there on line 16, page 96, section 213, under “Insurance Rating Rules.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account - and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.

Section 213 describes the process in which the Health Benefits Commissioner is to assess the monthly premiums that will be used to pay for elective abortions under the government-run plan. The Commissioner must charge at a minimum $1 per enrollee per month.

Health reform should be an opportunity to protect human life - not end it.

I feel I should have a choice when it is my tax dollars,

I know this is a touchy subject for many so that's all I am going to say.

frwebgate.access.gpo.gov...:h3962ih.txt.pdf

line 17, p. 110, section 222 under “Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed”

[edit on 113030p://bThursday2009 by Stormdancer777]

reply to post by buddhasystem

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If an abortion means lower costs in the long run, saved money can be then be applied to saving more lives, which means the net total is positive.

Isn't the above basically saying that in order to save lives, you have to kill off other lives?

I'm undecided on this issue. I don't believe in abortions, but I don't believe in telling a woman what to do with her body either. Very difficult decision IMO.

reply to post by Stormdancer777

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The previous posters are MAD.

MONEY IS STUPID and you people have proven it.

Since when does money mean more than life?!

This plan is complete and utter evil irony. How can killing be made okay and beyond that, how can we pay to ensure the murder of people, and beyond that, our own people - UNDER THE GUISE OF "Health" and "Care".

If there was an option that giving my life meant no more abortions, I would do it in a heart-beat. There is no such option.

Allow me to elaborate on money. Money = Time + work. You are saying you'd rather save more of your time and work than to allow people to be born to live. What hypocrites you are. Life must be so good for the people who think it's not worth sharing with others.

[edit on 11/5/2009 by TarzanBeta]

reply to post by TarzanBeta

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Since when does money mean more than life?!

In my book it doesn't. Like I said, I don't believe in abortions.

But I ask you, would you like somebody to force you to do something you don't want to do?

reply to post by SaturnFX

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You don't know much about abortions.

Deny ignorance and end your blissful selfishness.

reply to post by jam321

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Unless someone forced you to spread your legs, you made the choice!!!!!

In the case of a rape, I might be more inclined to think there is a "gray area".

reply to post by jimmyx

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Really...? You justify paying to kill a baby rather than to keep one alive in the name of .... preventing a child from suffering?

For those of you who claim it is in good conscience to kill before a person is able to suffer, can I ask you why your parents didn't abort?

reply to post by TarzanBeta

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From a man's point of view.

I have had three ex-girlfriends get an abortion while I was with them. They each had their own reason. I didn't like the idea one bit. I begged them not to, but their minds were made up. I even offered to take care of my child all by myself. Still not good enough.

There was virtually no way, short of imprisoning and monitoring them 24 hours a day, that I could change their minds.

Maybe if the court would allow a potential father to have a say so in the baby both individuals created, their would be less abortions.

Thanks for your reply.

reply to post by jam321

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I am sorry to say that I know exactly how you feel.

And no, you can't force someone to make the right or good decision. However, according to this new legislation, I would be FORCED to pay for something that is not right. I am being forced to make a bad decision. That is wrong.

Look, if you want to be evil and selfish and slutty, then you are creating your own horrible future, and I feel sorry for you and can't do much more than that. But for you to tell me that I am a contributor in the death of people who might very well be GOOD or BAD (Just like all of the people on this planet are already), then you are literally insane. Btw, I am not referring to you specifically, I mean 'you' generally.

I am very proud to announce that I have a beautiful wife who would never in her life dream of, no matter what the circumstances, killing another person unless it is completely understood that her life or the life of her family is in immediate jeopardy. These are my beliefs as well, and I believe they are not just beliefs, but a moral code that exists for a reason. Anyone who does not adhere to this moral code, which exists for obvious reasons, is simply acting against life, freedom, and humanity.

I cannot even participate in this thread anymore. It actually makes me physically sick.

[edit on 11/5/2009 by TarzanBeta]

reply to post by Stormdancer777

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Ok, I don't know if you are familiar with the abortion clause that falls under Medicare, this up to the states to define, and yes abortion in case of incest, rape, life threatening for the mother and others is included.

Those conditions should be covered regardless, I don't agree with elective abortion to be paid by tax payer.

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