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H1N1 vaccine safe after millions of doses: WHO

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posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 10:40 AM

H1N1 vaccine safe after millions of doses: WHO

The World Health Organization says millions of doses of H1N1 vaccine have been given so far and no unusual side-effects have been seen.

Dr. Keiji Fukuda, the agency's top flu expert, told a news conference in Geneva on Thursday that 20 countries have started to administer the pandemic vaccine, which appears to be very safe.

He said the rates of local reactions like sore arms are similar and maybe even lower than seen with seasonal flu shots.

Fukuda added H1N1 viruses still aren't mutating much, though the WHO expects they will start to as immunity in the human population rises.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 10:40 AM

just keep on pushing something that is questionably safe. My MD is not getting the vaccine and people that i know who have got the vaccine have come down with a week long sickness.

As everyone on ATS knows, if you watch Johnny Anon, the swine flu was a patent and was engineered.

Let's not inject ourselves with "safe" vaccines published news from the WHO.

We don't want to be that Vaccine-Nation.

that's my .02
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 10:43 AM
Oh my, I will still sit until next year and wait patiently for the results,

Have anybody seen the new propaganda by the government on promoting the swine flu vaccine?

I just saw a commercial with a guy walking into a meeting wrapped in a big black trash bag, I guess they want to add a littler bit of humor to the vaccine.

[edit on 5-11-2009 by marg6043]

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:31 AM
Good the WHO have found out the vaccines are safe after a few weeks of what amounts to human experimentation.
No unusual side effects they say-NO means none.
Which is a lie.People have had bad side effects.

How on earth do they know that this vaccine is safe in lifetime terms?
They cannot.Bloody liars and scam artists.

My doctor asked me if I would take the vaccine-he wasn't offering it to me,he asks everyone he said-and I told him I would have to be physically restrained first...He thought I was scared of needles,until I said I don't want any crazy additives and metals in my body.
He then said " I don't blame you for that."

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 11:35 AM
It's funny how people who die of Swine Flu with pre-existing condiitons- die of Swine Flu.
But those who have the Vaccine with pre-existing conditions and die - die of the pre-exisiting conditions.

With this skewered logic and manipulating of truths, then the stats would say that it's totally safe.

WHO are a joke.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 12:13 PM
A 42 year old woman died here in Quebec this week. She received the vaccine 2 days before she began to show flu symptoms and was hospitalized. Apparently the pre-existing condition was mild asthma and she ultimately died of a blood infection. They are saying that the vaccine doesn't take effect for 10 to 14 days so she was unprotected. Seems more likely that they gave her the flu with the shot.

I heard this on the CTV news last night but they are not talking about it today. Unfortunateley the most detailed report I can find is in french.

Does anyone know what the complications of swine flu can be? I've heard of paralysis, pneumonia but not the blood infection.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 12:15 PM
Another day, another WHO lie.

I'd like to know when they're going to realize, the propaganda is not working anymore.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 12:16 PM
reply to post by adnil

In 1976 one of the side effects of the swine flu vaccine back then was sudden death, meaning that people will suddenly die after receiving the flu shot.

The reasons for sudden death were never really explained and it seems to hit the elderly more.

[edit on 5-11-2009 by marg6043]

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 12:25 PM
Welcome to the illogical world where if medications don't have instant side effects then they are "safe". Like there is no such thing as "long term" effects.

That is the problem with all medications this day and age. When they test the medications, they are only looking for the visible effects that can be detected, and they ignore the invisible effects that could be happening undetected, and the problems we just don't have knowledge about. This is why a medication will appear safe at first, then later you see a commercial on TV for a lawsuit regarding the medication causing cancer or some other deadly disease.

Medications act as catalysts for problems that don't show until years later. This is why they are apparently "safe" at first, then turn out to be deadly later. Because of the delayed problem, the medication is rarely blamed for the problem, even though it is what started the problem.

That is why I don't take any medications of any type unless it is absolutely needed, and without it, death is certain.

Originally posted by ontariocanada

Fukuda added H1N1 viruses still aren't mutating much, though the WHO expects they will start to as immunity in the human population rises.
(visit the link for the full news article)

The quote above is proof that my theory is correct. Vaccinations actually cause viruses to mutate faster. Humans are making viruses mutate faster by getting "immune" faster, and immunizing people before they have the virus, and making viruses learn how to attack us differently.

Normally, your body doesn't become "immune" until you have caught the virus. Not everyone catches the virus.... some people can go their whole lives without coming across a certain virus.

When you immunize people before they get the virus, and you immunize people that probably wouldn't have even gotten the virus anyway, you increase the chances of a virus coming across an immunized person, and mutating to survive in that person.

Even though vaccinations can save certain people, in the long term it is actually making viruses more deadly.

Humans just don't understand what they are dealing with.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 12:34 PM
Some statistics so far on the death of swine flu in the US and related reasons for death, so far no virus mutation at all at least for now.

Risk of Serious Illness from the H1N1 Mutant Virus

Their survey of 24 states found that a total of 67 patients out of tens of millions of people ended up in the ICU. That is, only 6% of the people admitted to the hospital were so sick as to need intensive treatments. Of these 67 patients, 19 died (25%) and of these 67% had obvious underlying long-term medical illnesses. This means that only 6 patients out of tens of millions of people in 24 states that were considered “healthy” before their infection, had died. Is this justification for a mass vaccination campaign?

Of the 1082 hospitalized patients, 93% were eventually discharged recovered and only 7% died, a very low death rate. Their analysis of these cases concluded that those who died fell in three categories:

•They were older patients
•Antiviral medications were started 48 hours after the onset of the illness
•There was no correlation to having had seasonal vaccines
The last item is especially interesting because they assume that having had seasonal flu vaccine would have offered some protection -- it offered none.

What they did find was that none who died had been given antiviral medications (Tamiflu or Relenza) within 48 hours of getting sick. Those given the antiviral medications within the golden 48-hour period rarely died. Relenza is far safer than Tamiflu. This was the only factor found to correlate with survival of severely ill ICU patients.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 12:40 PM
They should be brought to court for LYING!!!!

Remember in the begginign, they said many thousands of people died from the swine flu?

Then they corrected themselves and said no it was just a few like under 20.

How in the world can they make that mistake?
Didn't anyone get fired for that massive error?

And now lying again!

Lies lies lies and apple pies.

Also anyone else notice that they keep saying pregnant women should take the vaccine first?
But they aren't even talking about nutrition for these pregnant mothers?

Just a simple use your elbow if you sneeze.... pathetic!

H1N1 swine flu infects commercial swine in USA, reports USDA

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 01:38 PM
Two bad reactions from immunization in city

THE H1N1 vaccine isn't for everyone.

Since the mass immunization began in Winnipeg Monday, two people have had rare allergic reactions to it, according to the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority.

"We have had two incidents involving some allergic-type symptoms," said Dr. Sande Harlos, a WRHA medical officer of health. "This is what we're prepared to deal with."

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 01:41 PM
Brooklyn girl winds up in hospital after being injected with H1N1 swine flu vaccine without parental permission

A six-year-old Brooklyn girl, Nikiyah Torres-Pierre, was hospitalized recently after being injected with the swine flu vaccine. The vaccination was conducted entirely without her parents' permission in an incident school nurses are calling "a mistake."

Mother Naomi Troy told the NY Daily News, "I was outraged." After receiving the swine flu injection, her daughter complained she was itching and her stomach was hurting. That's when school officials called an ambulance that rushed Nikiyah to the hospital.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 04:32 PM
As more people gets vacinated more and more people will be coming out with allergic reactions and many other symptoms specially children, lets remember that we can not sue the government or big pharma for any ill effects.

Why targeting pregnant women and the unborn? I really have no clue, but this something people should know.

Pregnant Women NOT at Increased Risk, Obese Women Are!!

So, why did even 66 pregnant women end up in the ICU? As we shall see in the American study5, a significant number of these pregnant women were either obese or morbidly obese and most had underlying medical problems. The Australian/New Zealand study6 found that one of the major risk factors for pregnant women was indeed being obese and that obesity was associated with a high risk of underlying medical disorders.

They also found that death from H1N1 infection correlated best with increasing age, contrary to what the media says. They concluded the study with the following statement:

“ The proportion of patients who died in the hospital in our study is no higher than that previously reported among patients with seasonal influenza A who were admitted to the ICU.” 6

In fact, they report that of those infected with the H1N1 variant virus who were sick enough to be admitted to the ICU, 84.5 % went home and 14.3% died and that of those admitted with seasonal flu 72.9% were discharged and 16.2% died. That is, more died from the seasonal flu.

From my source in my last post.

What about the Danger to Pregnant Women? The American Experience

Our media is inundating the public with scare stories of the danger this virus poses to pregnant women. Most of us visualize the pregnant woman as being healthy, young and without underlying medical diseases. The study is quite revealing, but omits some very important factors.

We are told that pregnant women are 6x more likely to end up in the hospital than the general population. This figure is derived from the fact that it was estimated that pregnant women had a 7% greater chance of requiring hospital admission than did the general public at 1% (Even this is a far higher number than their own studies indicate -- actually it is a very small fraction of 1%).

Dr. Michael Bronze, a professor of internal medicine at the University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, writing for emedicine (WebMD), states that the risk of a pregnant women being hospitalized with the H1N1 infection is 0.32 per 100,000 pregnant women (which is 1 in 300,000 pregnant women).17 One can safely say, based on the Australian/New Zealand experience (at the peak of their flu season) and the American data somewhere in the middle of their flu season, that pregnant women have about a 99.97% chance they will not become so sick as to require hospital care at any level.

The death rate of pregnant women who were admitted to the ICU was 7.7%, a fairly low figure for infectious ICU patients. Remember, most patients admitted to the hospital are admitted for hydration and are not that ill in terms of the infection itself.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 06:48 PM
I said in another thread my wife choose to have a shot against my advise and with in a day or so was so violently sick had to be taken to hospital.
She was in a bad way...

If it was a normal bug or flu the whole household normally shares it around, but neither my daughter or I got anything.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 07:06 PM
I'm confused.

There are been reports of people having allergic reactions to this shot. Okay, but wouldn't these people have already known they were allergic to the egg proteins that this was cultured in? I only say this as it's the prevalent problem.

And we've ALL been warned that these vaccines were cultured with egg proteins.

So, assuming all the proper questions were asked (are you allergic to eggs?), what were they actually allergic to?

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 07:29 PM
reply to post by juniperberry

The problem is that is more than just eggs on the vaccine, is a plethora of additives that you will not be able to know your chances for allergies or how sensitive you are until you get the shot.

That is why sudden death was one of the side effects back in 1976 swine flu mass vaccination.

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 07:32 PM
Great. Kind of like how you don't know you're allergic to tarantula bites until it bites you and you die.

Yeah.. there's incentive..

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 07:56 PM
you got shots for us, we got shots for you

not a game anymore

what ####ing bull####

make my day, punks. make my day

prepare to die and party in fire lake

####ing retards

too funny

posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 08:01 PM
WHO = sounds too similar to NWO
Who is ever going to trust them?

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