ok, I think we have #5 pegged wrong.... I have made an extensive update of all the saying of each member.... The above said that his ranting are not
part of the game... But, does that mean his regular stories are? It may not be smart to just off him because maybe he have interpreted the meaning.
Also, why not just ban him like they did the last guy that gave BOGUS info.. So, I pieced this together and cyphering out the rantings and reading
into some of them...
What started making me think about #5 is the fact that he mentioned that if we connect the dots (see below) and we will find the rings..... Well,
Simon mentioned 7 Red Dots on the envelope (Maybe 7 clues).... So, I started to think about this... and If you take out the rantings and piece just
their words together you basically all go to the same point. This is definately Sumerian...... Now, maybe 5 is a decoy, but also serves the purpose
of the true information giver.... Just some ideas. I have put all of the evidence that I have collected below.... Some may be repeats, but this is 9
pages of facts about the game so far and I do not have the energy to edit out each part. I hope this will encourage others to share their info
more....... I think in order to solve it, the history is going to be important in some manner.... He was preparing us for the game somehow....
Also, the Poster that said the "(1) Whoever has walked with truth generates life. (1)" one is not important, I think you are wrong.. This is a
sumerian saying ... Not sure about the code at the bottom though. May or may not be....
DO NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 4. ALIGN WITH THE 5TH.
THE RINGS WILL BE FOUND BY THE TEAM THAT INVITES THE 5TH. Has anyone tried to contact #5 and ask straight?
DO YOU SEE THE FEAR IN THAT MESSAGE? (Maybe he is pointing this message out for a reason!)
**Deciphered message was**
This might be my last message.
The enemy is on my heals and I
bearly have time to use this
terminal. I hope you have hid
yoours by now. It is much worse than
we thought. They enemy, I have
learned is the ?communication? line. I
have no idea how, but their line is
renewed after all these hundreds
of years. But they are in a rapid and
unrelenting chase. Rumor has it
that they know two of the words.
I dont know how, Nor do
I know if this rumor is a ruse.
Tomorrow I disappear. Good luck
YOU ARE BEING KEPT IN THE DARK ABOUT WHAT THESE RINGS REALLY ARE. YOUR CLUE SOLVING IS BEING WATCHED AND COMPARED TO WHAT IS KNOWN. THE RINGS MUST BE
FOUND. BUT NOT BY THESE. So, maybe #5 is telling us that the assumptions beow were wrong.. More of a cryptic way of giving the answer, but sounding
like it is negative towards finding the rings... hmm
**This was in reference to** possible yet unlikey, maybe the rings are part of or on the site. and all that cryptc bs is just directions. maybe not
however, but just imagine trying to search every post/page on this site for em, ahh... and
**At first I thought all the numbers represented Post Numbers... But I couldn't look into it for I could not find the post numbers through search
and did not want to search for them manually.**
I SPEAK THE TRUTH THAT THEY FEAR. I AM THE WAY AND THE LIGHT TO VICTORY. THE OPERATORS OF THIS SITE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY TOY WITH. ONLY I CAN
HELP YOU ATTAIN THAT WHICH YOU SEEK. So, mayb here he is saying that he has the answers and can help. Of course, his role is scare us and to give us
the answers as well.??
I have been warned by several people and said to be "globally ignored" somehow. I'm not certain what that means, but it is clear that the truth is
feared. if you want to know the truth please communicate with me through the private messages. and i implore you to please do not share my messages in
a public post. they are watching and will ban me from revealing the truth.
He is intruiging everyone to U2U him and ask.... Did anyone do ths? hmmmm
I am neither a group or another "website". I am the truth and your only hope. As I stated before, your inability to recognize a true conspiracy
older than the nations involved with it confounds me. Why are you here at this place? Why do you seek that which could distort your destiny? Why will
you pay no heed? Their attempts to silence me have failed them this time. They may not fail the next time heed my words and fear the children of the
night. *****Here giving a clue that this is dealing with something OLDER THAN THE NATIONS.. Follows what Simon said during the letter.... (Sumerian)
Talks about distoring destiny.. Maybe soemthing about Sumerian ideas of destiny here. Fear the Children of the Night-Does this have to do with
vampires or something Sumerian? hmmm.....
the faith of modern man on his guns and weapons is indeed sad. the power of the truth behind the words are beyond your grasp.
i have told you what to do. i will not reveal what i know in a public message. please use the private message feature to discuss my advice. i was
already warned and nearly banned when my private communication appeared in public. Here again he is asking for people to U2U him (obviously not
worried about U2U limits).
Debunked? You can't debunk the truth. There is much the operators don't understand, I have shared some with one among you in a private message.
I am a hunter from a long and ancient line of hunters who understand the power of what the operators would have you toy with. ******What is the
Private Message that he shared with one among us?******
what can I do to be taken seriously? I have given you what you need to know? silly children. you do not understand. the line of destiny shall prevail.
** The line of Destiny shall prevail.... This matches the encrypted picture code given by 4******
because there is much that the operators don't know and they are using you to discover the truth. run away from this abomination while you still have
your soul! *** Something here about souls.. Maybe dealing with Sumerian religion ***
This is where 5 was banned and replaced by -5-.
Obviously -5- was real as the Moderators kicked someone off for giving false clues.... hmmmm Must mean -5- is real-
again you shall ask
even though i have provided ample warning you all still seek these rings for the corrupt. i have been instructed to provide one more opportunity to
ask a question of me. decide who amongst you shall ask, and clearly identify the one question you are granted.
i shall return in 20 minutes to answer the question you have specified.
**** I need to look up this story ****
i have been instructed to provide one more translation from the ancient text for you worthless agents of the corrupt alliance. while I protest this
action as you have shown you are not worthy, it is not my choice.
And so it came to pass, that in the waning days of his life and great rule, Hammurabi became more curious about the origins of the two rings that he
wore. With reluctant superstition, he put the success of his rein down, in part, to his posession of the rings.
He consulted amoungst the now numerous and wise priesthood that had established in the greatest of cities, Babylon. It was one of wisest of these
priests, Kiri, that would effect the final separation of the four rings and the deep secret they conceal.
Kiri persuaded Hammurabi to lend him one of the rings and take it to a small ornate temple along the Euphrates river between Uruk and Ur where, he
reassured Hammurabi, that in consultation with priests belonging to an ancient religious order, he would discover the origins of the rings, and unlock
Kiri had been at the temple barely a week when the news of Hammurabi's death reached him. The priests at the temple were very interested in the ring
and had told Kiri that they had been one of ten rings. The secrets contained within each ring were spiritual in nature and controlled the wisdom of
men. On finding this out Kiri decided to inform Habburabi's heir. The priests tried vainly to persuade him to stay and maintain the ring in their
As Kiri left the temple at the start of his trip back to Babylon he was murdered and the ring taken from him.
The priests of the temple would not have dared to commit the murder themselves but they were quite happy to take posession of the ring and they
secretly made plans to collect the other one still in Babylon.
The rings and their secrets disappeared from recorded history until the time of the Pharos and the great construction projects of Egypt.
you know not what you play with
these things must be given to those who are rightful heirs.
denial is a fitting comfort zone for you. is it not?
***** Important I think *****for those who connect the dots, they will see my history lesson is correct.
history is always important. especially when you are looking for something very old.
i tell you this now. those that learn from my information will know more and will have a greater opportunity to succeed in their hunt.***** no matter
what your stifled little brain thinks of what to do with what you have found, certainly you would prefer to win this hunt of theirs?
i am the one who mentioned first these objects enable wisdom. have you head that elsewhere since? perhaps I am allowed to remain because the operators
of this hunt also wish to learn what I know?
if you would now like me to leave you in your ingorance, just say so and you shall be cursed for failure.
Listen to me children! These rings are real! They are in the real world! They must be handed *only* to me!
The others would trick you nasty and play with your sence of honour, colour your mind with false hopes and promises of gold.
Gold there is to be had, no doubt, but the gold is not the treasure here, it's the words of POWER.
Find the rings and contact only me. I am the only hope!
POSSIBLY IN ANSWER TO SMUDGE ASKING WHAT TO DO WHEN WE FIND THE RING
Mail Asking for Help
From the mail requesting help, the hints I thought may be important....
Uncle Jeff - Not his real Name
Uncle Jeff - Dr. Who and Prisoner fan
Uncle Jeff - war veteran
Uncle Jeff: Died Late 2002
four covert spies known 1, 2, 3, 4
Maintained Secret Board: deep.access.abovetopsecret.com
Used Archie and Gopher clients
gold ring with their secret password for the domain engraved inside
six months after 9/11: Number-3 - out of touch & Number-2 acting strange
They are part of a group that is very ancient, since before biblical times
The words have deep historic significance
They followed an ancient tradition.
The four words have a tremendous power
They are involved in some great historic struggle
Jan 2003 - `4` sent messagr saying "Kill the domain -- erase all data immediately -- timing is critical -- more later."
3 weeks later through the same means, "Thanks for your help -- all is well -- keep the site."
#There has long been plans for such an occurrence and there are clues for those who know what to look for#
Letter signed Your "Uncle"
7 red dots on the envelope
The rings: hidden in public places
if you live close to one of the rings, find it and keep the word safe until all four rings are recovered. Apparently we'll know what to do by
Messaged from #1
(1) Whoever has walked with truth generates life. (1)
Posted: 20-12-2012 at 06:12 AM *the 234 below may be important*
The picture cipher was above this .. the deciphered text it below.
INSABATU is Sumerian for rings
This might be my last message. The enemy is on my heals and I barely have time to use this terminal. I hope you have all hidden yours by now. It is
much worse than we thought. They enemy, I have learned is the Hammurabian line. I have no idea how, but their line is renewed after all these
hundreds of years. But, they are in a rapid and unrelenting chase. Rumor has it that they know two of the words. I do not know how, nor do I know is
this rumor is a ruse. Tomorrow, I disappear. Good Luck.
Here a berg, there a berg.
Site ain't the same without them...
And Jumpin Jeff Rense, too: good, cloak and dagger, intro here:
Simon, thanks for getting everything back up and running (hint hint).
This will be a teaser for now, I have some of my own run-ins with actual BilderBoys to toss together and post soon (don't tell 0).
**** Jumpin Jeff*** Jeff Rense is the same as Uncle Jeff?????? *********
But doncha juss lurve it?
It's good basic primer UP.
I'll post some more soon...
It's a d**n good trawlin site, though, Kano.
I used to argue with Jumpin Jeff in person pretty often. Once in a while, he gets a few things right purely by accident
Obviously something on this link is correct to helping the cause.
Come on chaps -100 days without a BloodyB*gger.
mad as Hatters here; but the most convincing list of the alleged BildaBricks I've seen for a good while.
(note absence of royalty)
I would just like to say hi to all the members, and just letting people know I lurk a great deal, and almost never post. (Hi Simon! How's Uncle
I'm looking forward to great things form ATS in the coming months/years. I'll always be lurking somewhere behind your shoulder.
No info, just the avatar pic....
[Edited on 20-5-2004 by JCMinJapan]