Joe Wilson Proposes Forcing Congress Onto Government Health Insurance Plan, page 1

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Topic started on 4-11-2009 @ 09:51 PM by HotSauce

Joe Wilson Proposes Forcing Congress Onto Government Health Insurance Plan.

The old saying, what is god for the goose is good for the gander, comes to mind here.

"They know the government-run option will not be in the interest of the American people, either individually or for the American citizens at large," Wilson said Wednesday, arguing that's the reason Congress does not require its members to sign up.

The current House health care legislation states that members of Congress "may enroll" in the public plan. Wilson wants that changed to "must enroll."

"If the public option is good enough for the American people, then it's certainly good enough for Congress," Wilson said. "If this government-run plan is so good, why don't members of Congress take the plan?"

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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:14 PM by Night Star

Hey great idea!!!!

I think I like this guy! Thanks for sharing this with us. Starred and fagged.

reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:19 PM by endisnighe

GO JOE!

While he's at it, maybe put in that every government employee from the Fed to City Hall has to.

Hell, put that in every law written, and if any government official breaks a law they have passed-they get twice the sentence as everyone else.

HOW BOUT THEM FRACKING APPLES

SF

reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:22 PM by HotSauce

reply to post by Night Star

Thanks to both of you for the S&F. Joe kind of calls it as he sees it. It seems if this was so great the Congress would be first in line to sign up for it. I wonder if their Cadillac policy is subject to a 40% tax?

reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:30 PM by Jomina

Indeed, I knew as soon as they passed the resolution saying they would be exempt from it, that it was a bad thing.

They ended up passing that resolution, what, 3 freakin times?

Just like the vaccine manufacturers not being liable for any damages they do now, as soon as I saw that, I knew the vaccines are no good.

Use common sense when ya think, it's the only sense ya got left after they have spent it all away.

reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 11:23 PM by PRS395

reply to post by HotSauce

Here is the bottom line; If congress won't use the healthcare and healthcare plan that they are proposing for everyone, is there anything more that needs to be said???

If you don't see this, than, NO ONE can help you!!!

reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 11:30 PM by vor78

reply to post by PRS395

No, nothing else needs to be said. If its not good enough for our elected representatives, its not good enough for us.

In fact, I think the Democrats' collapse on health care can be tied back directly to one of Obama's prime time press conferences back in July. One of the reporters asked him if he'd subject his own family to the health care plan that they were proposing at the time and he all but rejected it. I think that was the one thing that hurt him and the Democrats more than anything else on the issue.

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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 11:33 PM by Seiko

I support this measure fully.

The health care they get should be the same we get. I applaud his amendment. It;s amazing what ideas you can get from the populace if you just go talk to them.

reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 11:36 PM by Eurisko2012

reply to post by HotSauce

Elitists say "Do as i say. Not as i do."
I want to go home now. Someone call my Gulfstream 550.

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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 11:42 PM by Stormdancer777

Yup,
sounds,
like ,
a,
plan,

Can't imagine anyone outside of congress disagreeing with this .

reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 12:39 AM by Southern Guardian

reply to post by HotSauce

Hotsauce, all government politicians are covered under government run healthcare. The single payer system is covered for all congressman, senators, presidents etc. The same system conservatives absolutly oppose.

So, your OP is basically asking something that has already been in place for all politicians.

reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 12:41 AM by Seiko

reply to post by Southern Guardian

The public option they are offering us is not single payer. Their health care is not like what they are offering us.

I think the point here is that they leave that cushy care and take the public as they've written it for us.

reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:13 AM by vor78

reply to post by Southern Guardian

So, I guess that we can expect the Democrats in Congress and the President to completely agree with Wilson's proposal? If its the same thing, they should have no problems with this.

I suggest that you don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:46 AM by AllexxisF1

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to post by HotSauce

Hotsauce, all government politicians are covered under government run healthcare. The single payer system is covered for all congressman, senators, presidents etc. The same system conservatives absolutly oppose.

So, your OP is basically asking something that has already been in place for all politicians.

This.

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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 10:11 AM by OldDragger

I guess Addison, er, "Joe' forgot that he is entitled to free healthcare for life as a veteran. Why doesn't he propose everyone ( including Congress) get the same benefits he does?
And why doesn't he tell eveyone that he's gotten $ 414,000.00 from the health care and insurance industries in " contributions"?
Where's ol' Joes bill to limit the influence of lobbiests?
Awww, I forgot, the money has no influence on him, his only concern is "liberty"

Does Joe support the repeal of Medicare? WHY NOT?! After all, it's a "big government" program! And he's so damn courageous!
And why change the language of the bill? Care to explain WTF sense that makes. he's admitting NOBODY IS FORCED TO CHANGE OR LOSE THEIR PRESENT INSURANCE UNLESS THE BILL WAS CHANGED.

So, knee jerk ATS'ers! Care to explain what sense Joes stunt makes?

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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 11:13 AM by OldDragger

reply to post by OldDragger

Gee Golly! ( to quote Sarah palin)
No comments! Wonder why?
Out defending Liberty like patriot Joe? Or maybe at the bank like Joe?

reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 01:08 PM by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by Seiko
reply to post by Southern Guardian

The public option they are offering us is not single payer.

Ofcourse its not single payer! Why do you think its not single payer?? Because there was absolutely no support by the right and even on the dem side for full coverage, so the healthcare plan got cut up time after time to what we have now. The same system as politicians are under now was introduced and instantly shot down by you fellas. I find it rather hypocritical that your giving me this reply right now.

So your complaining this isnt single payer, and yet single payer seems to be the more hated plan than the publican option by the right, more socialist. So how do you explain that??

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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 01:12 PM by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by Southern Guardian

So, I guess that we can expect the Democrats in Congress and the President to completely agree with Wilson's proposal? If its the same thing, they should have no problems with this.

I suggest that you don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

They dont have to agree with anything. They including joe wilson himself are covered by an even more government run socialist healthcare plan than the public option itself. Its hypocrisy what Mr Wilson is doing considering his most happy to stay under his government run healthcare. Why doesnt he bill for himself taking politicians off government run healthcare, , maybe that makes more sense to his cause?

Sheer hypocrisy.

reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 12:12 AM by endisnighe

reply to post by Southern Guardian

Sorry SG, if you think they have socialist care, you are sorely mistaken. Let us say everyone gets complete coverage. And they keep theirs. Do you think I can go to their private wing to get care? Do you think I will get the same possible surgeries or medications they do?

Otherwise stop with your bull# obfuscations.

reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:05 AM by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by Southern Guardian

Sorry SG, if you think they have socialist care, you are sorely mistaken.

So you say Im wrong? Are politicians not covered by a completely government run healthcare? Are you denying Mr Wilson himself is not covered by an even more socialistic healthcare system?

Here let me give you a link:
public-healthcare-issues.suite101.com...

As I said, I find it laughable Mr Wilson and his tea party followers want to put this bill forward to prove a point against socialist when the very coverage his on is even more far left by consideration. It doesnt make sense does it.

Tell me why doesnt Wilson put a bill out taking all government ministers off socialized healthcare? Maybe you can read into Mr Wilsons mind to answer me that.

Let us say everyone gets complete coverage.

We're talking about Mr Wilson and him being covered by a socialized healthcare system, thats what we're talking about here. Any other debates we can move along after you actually address my previous posts.

SG

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