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Largest retirees’ group backs House health bill

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posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 08:59 PM
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rawstory.com...


In a coup for House Democrats, AARP will endorse sweeping health care overhaul legislation headed for a history-making floor vote, officials told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

An endorsement from the seniors' lobby was critical when then-President George W. Bush pushed the Medicare prescription drug benefit through a closely divided Congress in 2003. House Democratic leaders are hoping it will work the same political magic for them as they strive to deliver on President Barack Obama's signature issue.


This is a setback for the GOP and the Insurance/HMO lobbies. AARP is a huge voting block and the PTB pay attention when these geezers speak.

I wonder if many GOPs up for reelection are reevaluating their stance on the Health Care bill? You do not want the AARP POed during election time.




posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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You do realize that tons of folks are leavng AARP for backing this plan. they have always backed any idea that Obama has had for healthcare reform, because AARP will benefit financially if healthcare reform passes.



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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Just keep this in mind.


The 23-member volunteer Board of Directors is the governing body of AARP and approves all policies, programs, activities, and services for the Association's 40 million members.


Source: www.aarp.org...

Congress would do well to remember that, come next November, the 40 million members, a.k.a voters, might have a different opinion than the 23 member AARP board.



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by WTFover

Congress would do well to remember that, come next November, the 40 million members, a.k.a voters, might have a different opinion than the 23 member AARP board.


My bet is that the board represents the wishes of the members pretty well.
And yes Congress and politicians in general would be well advised to pay attention to AARP. Of course they don't vote as a block but I'm a member and I pay attention to the issues that affect us.



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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I seem to recall I heard a lot of people were leaving aarp because they were dissatisfied



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by WTFover
Just keep this in mind.


The 23-member volunteer Board of Directors is the governing body of AARP and approves all policies, programs, activities, and services for the Association's 40 million members.


Source: www.aarp.org...

Congress would do well to remember that, come next November, the 40 million members, a.k.a voters, might have a different opinion than the 23 member AARP board.


The leadership is the voice of those members and the AARP would not do something that conflicted with their best interests. The AARP wants happy old people and the old people know that. They trust the AARP when they are too lazy to do the work on their own. No one is going to leave the AARP period. It is the largest membership organization for these people - that doesn't happen if people quitted it on a whim. They don't and won't.

Old people know they cannot currently afford healthcare. They want reform more than any other group out there.



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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Why would they want a reform package that strips $500 billion out of Medicare? Did you mss all the old people and AARP memberes at the town halls that were about to bust a blood vessel over this "reform"?



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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The 23-member volunteer Board of Directors is the governing body of AARP and approves all policies, programs, activities, and services for the Association's 40 million members.

Rush Limbaugh has 20 million listeners.Just sayin.

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posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:38 PM
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Old people know they cannot currently afford healthcare. They want reform more than any other group out there.


All I've heard from the left, for the past 6 months, is how much the elderly love their Medicare, supposedly offered as proof of the ability of the government to run health care.

If they are satisfied with Medicare, why would they want reform? If they "want reform more than any other group out there", they must not be satisfied with Medicare. Can't have it both ways.

[edit on 4-11-2009 by WTFover]



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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I left AARP when I realized they were anti gun rights and feel seniors are too old and stupid to handle a weapon.

This latest trick they are pulling is the icing on the cake.

Down with AARP.



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:45 PM
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Rush Limbaugh has 20 million listeners.Just sayin.


I apologize for being a little slow on the uptake, but you'll have to explain that one to me.



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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Wow now you are saying AARP is backing it.

Obama came out and said they were, he was lying.

AARP came out and said they weren't backing it.

NOW THEY ARE? I wonder how much FRACKING STIMULUS MONEY it took for Obama to BRIBE them?



Keep it up COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST/FASCIST/ELITIST PIGS!



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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Follow the money

I'm sure AARP will benefit from this one way or the other. Not the members, just the organization.


According to Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP), "Some of these products are total rip offs," so bad, in fact, that AARP was forced to withdraw its Essential Health Insurance Plan and Essential Plus Health Insurance Plan, developed by United Health Group and sold to 44,000 of its members.

PNHP calls AARP "part of the problem and not part of the solution. It is nothing but an insurance (and financial) broker disguised as an advocacy group - and they will never take on the health insurance industry. (It) represent(s) the insurance industry (and its own self-interest) rather than (its members and) the public welfare in discussions about health reform."

As a result, it's largely profit-driven offering 17 types of insurance reaping hundreds of millions annually in royalties. Millions more from selling drugs; other products and services including mutual funds; plus federal subsidies exceeding $80 million annually; and annual membership dues of $16 per year, $43 for three years, or $63 for five x 40 million members.

It's also active on Capitol Hill with a 50-person staff and a 2008 $28 million lobbying budget, much like major corporations and for the same purpose - profits at the expense of member interests, unaware how they're ill-served by an organization claiming to be their advocate.


www.baltimorechronicle.com...



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 11:43 PM
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I just realized after doing a little reading that the AARP used to mean
American Association of Retired Persons. Now they accept members
all the way down to age 50. No wonder the AARP is so interested in
health reform. They sell lots of medical plans to people who are way
too young for Medicare. AARP really stands for Azwhole Association of
Ripoff Pimps.



posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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In a coup for House Democrats, AARP will endorse sweeping health care overhaul legislation headed for a history-making floor vote, officials told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

Are you aware that there aren't more than a handful of seniors that haven't tossed AARP overboard? The numbers are deceiving, in that many members purchased life-time memberships, and so are considered "members", even though they are fed up with AARP. AARP is nothing but an organization whose PRIMARY purpose is to try to sell over-priced insurance to seniors. The AARP is on the same wavelength as the Trial Lawyers Association. They both boost the Democratic plan because they see $$$$$ for their coffers.



posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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Yes i get all the health insurance and life insurance offers from AARP that are a joke.

Not a one of them is usable by me because of preexisting health problems so i just trash them.

Even there auto insurance is over priced.

The only insurance i can use from them is insurance for a motor home that i want to live in year round.
Few insurance companies will sell motor home insurance to people that live in motor homes and travel year round.(snowbirds lifestyle)

The discounts i get with there card just about covers the membership cost.
one is that you can join at 50 and if someplace has Seniors discount for people over 62 I just flash the AARP card and no one has ever checked to see if i was really over 62. i am 58 (there are a lot of dumb kids out there working in these businesses)




posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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Even there auto insurance is over priced.

Absolutely true!
I got a call from them about a year ago, telling me that they could save me money on my auto insurance, so I decided to play along. I gave them my current coverage limits, etc, where I live. They said they'd call back in an hour with their "money saving offer". Well, when the called back with their offer, I almost split a gut laughing. It was $600 more a year than I was paying for my wife and I, and 2 cars.
I also had given them my coverage limits for our home. That turned out to be even worse. Their premium for a year was DOUBLE what I pay for my home insurance.
I think they believe that just because you're a senior, you're stupid. Shame on them.



posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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You're right about this. The only reason AARP backs this plan is because it means profits for them but in no way benefits their constituents.

What organizations need to keep reminding themselves is this:


As of Sept. 30, 2009, the national debt was almost $12 trillion and interest on that debt was $383 billion for the year, according to the Treasury Department's Bureau of the Public Debt. The Congressional Budget Office on Oct. 7 estimated the 2009 budget deficit to be almost $1.4 trillion (about 10% of GDP).


online.wsj.com...

Obama needs to stop futzing with this stupid health care bill for now and focus on the economy. The economy is what's first and foremost on everyone's mind right now.



posted on Nov, 5 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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I have gotten quite a bit of useful info from my AARP publications. Knowing the history of this organization, it is not surprising that they offer insurance/financial services to seniors. It is always best to shop around.

Even the new anti-AARP, ASA, offers the same type of insurance/financial offers. So the seniors who complain about those offers will still have to contend with the same thing at their new organization. I think this is the difference, as expressed by interested persons

Clara and Mike says:
We don't like the Liberal Communist that AArp is siding up with.
October 5, 3:18 PM

....
Colleen says:
Thank god there are still Americans that look out for others. FOX NEWS is all about helping and keeping Americans informed on what and how we can save America and Americans. Save the country first. Good always beats evil, and I hear and see how we all are together and watching out for all thats good. GOD BLESS US ALL!
October 2, 10:38 PM

source

Now here's an organization that I'm more attuned with re the health insurance bills. ....

Well, what can I say about a country that can't even adopt the SI metric system. Yes, we're in a league of our own on that...US, Liberia, Burma. Perhaps AARP is right, that this and that taxdollar medicare giveaway to big pharma under Bush is the best we can do for now.

"And I think to myself, what a wonderful world it could be."
And GOD BLESS US ALL...even you Colleen.



posted on Nov, 6 2009 @ 08:46 PM
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AARP threw the seniors under the bus. AARP will probably have competition by next year. They were such a good organization for promoting things that seniors needed. It's too bad they decided to sell us out. I hope it was worth it to them. Some one probably profitted from a move that has to destroy the organization totally.

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