So let me get this straight: The Pentagon has video tapes of the Boeing hitting their own building.., page 4

One thing I have noticed when going through these 9/11 conspiracy threads, is that so many people have selective memory loss. They talk about one aspect of one conspiracy, but ignore the numerous other aspects which negate that first view.

A few things to clear up and to remind people on the Pentagon:

The Pentagon is not a fortress. It's an office building. It's not Area 51, it's not Cheyenne Mountain, it's not Ft. Knox, it's not a nuclear missile base, it's not a submarine pen. It does not have tanks inside, or special aircraft, or secret weapons, or missile pods, or super soldiers. It's an office building for the US Military. At best it has some security and possibly infantry backup with light to moderate weapons for a medium scale assault on the complex. However, it is not some sort of a secret fortress that is armed to the teeth to defend itself from the PLA or (insert enemy country here). It is only for office work and paperwork in running the military. It has civilians and active duty soldiers along with retired personnel as consultants. Militarily speaking, it is not a target of high value in comparison to an Army/Air Force/Marines/National Guard/NORAD/Navy base/etc. Taking out the Pentagon is not going to stop a tank or a fighter jet. The only missile batteries that were ever around the Pentagon only occurred twice: Once during the Cuban Missile Crisis and immediately AFTER 9/11, where Stinger Missiles were mounted on the Humvee's Avenger AA system.

To say blatantly that there was no aircraft (757) impact on the Pentagon goes against all the actual evidence recorded afterward, the eyewitness accounts, first responders, rescue personnel, recovery teams, and investigators. Just because there is no clear video should be insignificant to the fact that there are hundreds of eyewitnesses that did in fact see plenty of evidence that there WAS an AA 757 impact. This includes people that witnessed the plane coming in on the final dive, those that saw the impact up close or from a distance, those that saw the impact and ran to assist, those that were inside the building at time of impact, those that went into the burning side of the Pentagon to aid in rescue and recovery, those that sifted through the debris and wreckage searching for bodies and survivors, those who cleaned the wreckage, etc etc etc. This is what I meant in my first paragraph. Selective memory loss. They forget the tons of evidence that show a 757 DID hit the Pentagon, because there is no clear video, so to them its all suspect. That is irrational thinking.

Let's change gears for a sec. Let's say that they do release all the videos of the impact. And let's say they all show in some degree, indeed, a 757 AA hit the Pentagon. What then? Going by my experience and understanding of the TM behavior, they will scream bloody murder that the video is all faked. They will claim that the videos all were edited and faked and etc etc etc, and it still will be no good. And we will be back to square one. It's already happened before with the WTCs and the lunatic NPTs, and their claims of NO PLANE, ALL VIDEOS FAKED, etc etc etc. So what then? In my eyes, no matter what the govt does, it's damned if it does, and damned if doesn't. I can bet $100 that even if the videos released all show clear as day the approach and impact, a good majority of the TM will cry foul! Edited! Faked! Manipulated! Cover up! Still no proof! So no, I do not see any point of releasing the videos, if there are any to begin with. Maybe it will be enough to pacify a few of the more rational from the TM, but memory and experience also tells me that it most certainly will not do anything else for the bulk of the TM.

Let's look at it from another way. The rational outside observer way:
Why on Earth, would the govt try to fake a 757 crash into the Pentagon, in the most heavily populated area around DC? I can already tell that a good majority who believe this idea, probably have never even been to DC or around the Pentagon in person. They have only seen it on TV or in movies. I can safely say I have been to the Pentagon and around it. Arlington Cemetery, the highways and roads all around the Pentagon, and by the Annexes, I have seen it all, in the morning rush, afternoon and evening. To even think that someone would try to fake something as obvious as a 757 impacting the Pentagon, in that environment, and have no one notice, is insane. The traffic backups next to the Pentagon on I-395, Washington Blvd., Columbia Pike, the parking lots, people at the Cemetery, people driving down the George Mason and Arland D. Williams Memorial Bridges towards the Pentagon, The LBJ and FDR Memorial Groves, I can go on and on, all of these areas have near perfect views of the Pentagon and the airspace around it. To think that someone would not notice a lumbering 757, wheels up, engines full throttle flying over the Pentagon while special pyrotechnics go off inside, creating a fireball that would nearly envelope the aircraft in that area, is beyond stupid. Not with all the hundreds, if not thousands of potential eyewitnesses that would see it all.

Now we got the people who claim the debris was all planted after the special pyrotechnics. Ok, prove it. Make sure your brains are firing on all 12 cylinders, and using common sense and logic, explain how they would plant 757 debris on the lawn and inside the Pentagon while its burning. Explain how you would fool all the people right next to the Pentagon who had a ringside seat to the show, and manage to plant aircraft parts right in front of the burning side of the Pentagon and not have a soul notice it. Explain how the debris ended up inside the Pentagon and how not a single person noticed someone planting smashed, burning 757 debris inside. And lets not forget the news crews, and all the people who came running to the Pentagon immediately after the impact, how did they manage to miss the "men in black" planting debris everywhere.

It amazes me how people can get suckered into such nonsense without thinking ahead and understanding the logistical nightmare, and all the complexities and variables involved in even trying to pull something so grand off.

Showing the videos, if there are any, would be a waste of time. If someone is so engrossed by the conspiracy, then God Himself wouldn't be able to convince him otherwise. If there are videotapes, my money is riding on the bureaucracy and miles of red-tape being the reason for the delay.

[edit on 11/5/2009 by GenRadek]