So let me get this straight: The Pentagon has video tapes of the Boeing hitting their own building.., page 2
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:26 PM by 911files
Guys, don't take me the wrong way. I want to know what happened to the video record myself. I've been to the Pentagon on several occassions looking into the same thing. Here is what I know.

1) The FBI visited Ft. Myers behind the Sheraton and looked at their videos. They did not take them because they pointed to the ground and showed no sky. The tapes from that date have been reused and the videos from there no longer exist.

2) An employee at the Sheraton claims the FBI did take their security video. However, he will not go on the record because the Hotel legal/management have 'gagged' the employees. I did present this to the FBI and they did a number of appeal searches and claim to be unable to locate that video.

3) Navy Annex has multiple cameras along Columbia Pike. According to the Navy, these are operated by DPS. The DoD says that ALL relevant footage from both the Annex and Pentagon were turned over to the FBI. The FBI claims that they have only the footage from the Mall gate.

4) VDOT cameras do not normally record. The VDOT camera next to the poles was dislodged and damaged either by impact or vibration. The security cameras at the VDOT were installed after 9/11 per service documents obtained via FOIA.

So yes, I too believe that additional footage exists. However, I cannot prove that it exists and I am unaware of any documentation that indicates that it exists. Until such evidence exists, the issue is one of speculation and you will not find many Judges or lawmakers willing to go forward.


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 07:40 AM by HolydarknessVA
reply to post by Fedge



As far as i know there were still people in that side of the building working, I had already worked a full 12 hour shift when it happened and was forced to leave about 2 hours after more responders showed up from all over and enough people to help the injured.

That's all I know and cant provide anymore details for you except if that radio tower that is now up behind the DOT's building maybe it would have sheered a wing of the plane as it is almost 500 feet tall and was in the works to go up but never made it up before 9 /11


That's all i can give you guys and wont respond to this thread anymore. nothing i can say will convince you guys other wise and i don't like arguing

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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 07:52 AM by googolplex
reply to post by Fedge

I also thought that no one was killed, but it seems there was quite a few people were killed.
I also thought it was so covenient that, the part of the building was closed down and being worked on.
My other big question is where were the construction workers, at that time of day they should of been hard at work all over that area.


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:00 AM by chiron613
The only video I've ever seen of the Pentagon hit was taken from far away. As I recall, it *was* from a convenience store or service station or something of that nature.

The Pentagon no doubt has plenty of cameras trained on its doors and such. I doubt those would be any good, Even filming at full speed, 24 frames a second, you'd likely miss something coming in at around 500 miles per hour. Chances are, it would just be a blurred discoloration on the one frame that might conceivably have captured it. Remember, these cameras are not focused on distant areas, but on the doors and other parts of the building.

I doubt that the Government spends much time training its satellites on its own buildings. I would hope that they'd be looking at other buildings and scenes, nuclear sites, weapons factories, that sort of thing. Why on earth would they use a satellite to view the Pentagon?

It may be that some other countries had their satellites trained on the Pentagon, though again, why would they do that? They know the Pentagon isn't going to start building a missile site there, not be a source of identifiable danger. They wouldn't be able to pick out the various people going in and out, since they'd be inside of cars. What would be the point? But even if they did, chances are they're not our friends, and wouldn't share their photos with us.

And to be honest, I haven't heard of any such videos to begin with. Last I heard, there were no other tapes or videos, just that one crummy one. Obviously that doesn't mean there aren't any, but why would they hide them, then admit they exist but refuse to show them? Why not just keep on denying their existence? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, either...


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:28 AM by Pathos
Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
Why can't we see the tapes?

How is it a threat to our National Security? Or do I have my facts wrong and these tapes don't exist?

That's an easy one. If the cameras are hidden to protect the building, revealing the tapes will give their locations away. Terrorists both foreign and domestic will know where the cameras are located, and then they will be able to avoid (or deactivate) them in an attack.

Similar to how banks have hidden cameras. Even though the public is aware of the lobby devices, other locations in the bank are also under surveillance.

When it comes to protecting our national security, I have no problem with this type of stuff being held back.

Originally posted by gaslaugh123
This building of fools and idiots (including the white house and congress) must in some psychotic way believe all citizens of this "has been" nation are so "dumbed down" we would believe this BS they spout. I personally don't believe they give a flying f**k what we think. Their agenda is becoming all to clear as it exposes the evil and all the deceptions and lies behind these power hungry bastards. This nation no longer exist as a by product of our lost constitution. These are the "the worst of times and the worst of times".

I don't think the people working in the Pentagon are evil. I respect what they do to protect our country. Even though some may be misguided, I still think the majority of them are seriously moral people.

Most people hate military agencies because they represent power, and they keep things hidden from the public's view. I don't mind the secrecy.

Their only agenda is to protect US citizens from foreign harm, and to expand our military power to ensure everyone's safety.

I would love a chance to work in the Pentagon.

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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:31 AM by Denver
reply to post by 5 oClock



Surveillence is an understatement because the government knows about everything before it happens way ahead of time anyway since our Starting point at the BigBang. So my question is what does the government have planned to go wrong in the future(Biblical Revelations?). Surveilence is an understatement and free will an illusion. ("A man can do as he will but not will as he will." Arthur Schopenhauer Power to the Sheeple).
Hmmm... Sheeple sounds anti-gov. and a little anti-social to me because I heard a notorious street biker gang president use that same word on The Discovery channel last night.
"The government knows about each us even before the creation of the Universe The BigBang." "And so they saw each and every one of us before all of creation."

"The subject of consciousness may be the next on the list." Paul Davies About Time


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