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So let me get this straight: The Pentagon has video tapes of the Boeing hitting their own building..


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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 10:43 AM by SirPatrickHenry


Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by Rewey
Originally posted by vehemes terra eternus
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Capgirl, how can you NOT see a difference
It's eyewitnesses versus video evidence.



I might be wrong, but I think capgirl is asking why we're free to see as much footage of the WTC planes, but for some reason there seems to be footage from the Pentagon we're NOT allowed to see, ostensibly due to 'national security', or some such thing...

Ie. plenty of people allegedly witnessed it - why not release the footage for everyone else...

Rew


Wow - so you've jumped right to the tapes existing and are know questioning why you can't see them. Where is all this wonderful skepticism? With absouletly zero evidence that they exist you have accepted that they exist because someone anaymously suggested it on the internet.




flight77.info...

Straight from the website

The videos taken from the Pentagon area after the 9/11 attacks were mentioned in the Maguire declaration, where FBI Special Agent, Jacqueline Maguire responded (see below) to a request from Scott Bingham.
In Summary:

* She determined that the FBI had 85 videotaptes that might be relevant. Of those, 56 "of these videotapes did not show either the Pentagon building, the Pentagon crash site, or the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11."
* Of the 29 remaining videotapes, 16 "did not show the Pentagon crash site and did not show the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon."
* Of the 13 remaining tapes which showed the Pentagon crash site, 12 "only showed after the impact of Flight 77."
* The videotape taken from the Citgo gas station did not show the impact.
* No videotapes were located from the Sheraton Hotel, though she located a videotape from the Doubletree Hotel.


BTW Mr. Demo man, The documents are on that website. HEYYYYYY but keep lying.


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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 11:21 AM by hooper


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Exactly where am I lying? The entire premise of the thread is that there are tapes that show the impact of Flight77 and the Pentagon. There is only one that everybody has already seen from the parking lot cameras. The idea being promoted without substantiation is there are more than this one. There are not.



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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 08:43 PM by impressme


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As opposed to your self-induced delusions.


What the truth? The very truth that you continue to ignore everyday because you cant except the fact that your government lied to you, yes God forbid me for telling it.

You are on the verge of an apoplectic seizure because the FBI won't show you something that only YOU say they have.


Where is your proof that the FBI doesn’t have any of the videos?

That is really disconnected.


What is “disconnected” is you ignoring creditable evidence.

What else do you want to see that you think the bad guys are hiding from you - Loch Ness Monster? Little Green Men?


The Truth.



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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 09:07 PM by ~Lucidity


This has been my persistent and number 1 question regarding the incident at the Pentagon for over 8 years. Photos from a satellite in 1995 could show you the title of a CD laying on the front seat of your car. It's pure idiocy to think that there is not motion video or photographic evidence of the strike. And for them to even attempt to convince people that they don't have any should be sounding all sorts of alarms and raising all sorts of questions in any rational cognizant being's mind about all sorts of things but particularly about that day. That first FOIA was a joke and disgusted me so badly I stopped following this thread because it upsets me too much that people don't see this simple thing as a big red flag.



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reply posted on 19-11-2009 @ 11:30 PM by dubiousone


Originally posted by hooper
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There is only one that everybody has already seen from the parking lot cameras. The idea being promoted without substantiation is there are more than this one. There are not.


Really Hooper? There aren't more? You've seen the other 84 for yourself?

Originally posted by hooper
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Exactly where am I lying? The entire premise of the thread is that there are tapes that show the impact of Flight77 and the Pentagon.


That's not the premise of the OP's thread at all. Only in Hooper's mind is that the premise of this thread.

Try reading the OP twenty times. Maybe you'll get it. To make it simple for you: The OP's premise is that the gubmint's refusal to release all the videos raises suspicion that there is something on the videos that the gubmint don't wants us to see. Those of us with inquiring minds want to see for ourselves. We don't trust a federal gubmint which has such a sorry and long history of lying to us on nearly every conceivable subject. Others, such as Hooper, are willing to believe the gubmint when it tells them there is nothing to see here, be quiet little children, believe what your benevolent daddy tells you, move on, go play somewhere else. They just pick themselves and go play somewhere else.

By the way, I don't believe that Hooper is lying. He seems to really believe what he's saying. To be guilty of lying would require that he knows what he's saying is false. It is false. He's wrong. But he believes what he's saying nonetheless.

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reply posted on 20-11-2009 @ 11:30 AM by hooper


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Well, that is pretty weak. The FBI listed the contents of the 83 tapes. You don't believe them, you want to see for yourself. What difference would it make? If they are lying about the contents of the tapes to cover up a massive government conspiracy why would they even release the quantity of tapes. Besides, the argument (from the conspiracy fantasy crowd) has always been that there are tapes, unlisted, that show what "really" happened.



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