MILAN — An Italian judge found 23 Americans and two Italians guilty Wednesday in the kidnapping of an Egyptian terror suspect, delivering the first
legal convictions anywhere in the world against people involved in the CIA's extraordinary renditions program.
I know that there are a lot of differing opinions about the rendition, indefinite detention and Gulag practices of the George W. Bush administration,
some of which are sadly being continued under the current Obama administration.
A few selective quotes follow.
The Americans, who were tried in absentia, now cannot travel to Europe without risking arrest as long as the verdicts remains in place.
Former Milan CIA station chief Robert Seldon Lady received the top sentence of eight years in prison. The other 22 convicted American defendants,
including a former Milan consular official, Sabrina De Sousa and Air Force Lt. Col. Joseph Romano, each received a five-year sentence. Two Italians
got three years each as accessories.
For some reason, given the recent cases brought in Spain, and this Italian conviction, I doubt that this will be the last.
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some of which are sadly being continued under the current Obama administration.
Explain to me again how you think Obama is any different than Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, Carter? etc etc etc
We are EMPIRE.
The ENDISNIGHE and you better wake up people.
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Great find,OP s&f for you!  I don't expect this story to get much attention in the MSN I'm sure we will hear from the former CIA station
chief's lawyer about how this is all a huge misunderstanding or how the Italians are being good allies in the fight against terrorism. 
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originally posted by endisnighe
Explain to me again how you think Obama is any different than Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, Carter? etc etc etc
This thread is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of either, this was an informational thread about what I think is significant and overlooked
by the MSM.
Not everything is about Bush or Obama.
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maybe the fact that you didn't have Obama trying to defend these guys, and negotiate a deal to get them back to america, shows that he doesn't like
this crap. those CIA guys dug there own hole, violated laws, and it sounds like they are not going to be helped by our president. sometimes what is
not done is more instructive than what is done.
oh and by the way, the stimulus bill stopped alot of fiscal bloodshed, that could have snowballed into something much bigger. i think people should do
a little more research on the economic conditions of the states and localities, before the stimulus. but, that would give credit to Obama, and we
can't have that in any discussions, because that would be going against the tide.
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originally posted by jimmyx
maybe the fact that you didn't have Obama trying to defend these guys, and negotiate a deal to get them back to america, shows that he doesn't like
this crap.
Did you read the story jimmy? What do you mean "get them back to America"? They were tried in absentia, that means that the defendants were not
present for the trial. 
UPDATE:
One of the 23 Americans convicted today by an Italian court says the United States "broke the law" in the CIA kidnapping of a Muslim cleric Abu Omar
in Milan in 2003.
A confession from one of the convicted CIA agents. Not something you see every day, that much is clear.
"And we are paying for the mistakes right now, whoever authorized and approved this," said former CIA officer Sabrina deSousa in an interview to be
broadcast tonight on ABC's World News with Charles Gibson.
Now, I believe this admission of guilt is a sort of "sour grapes" result, but still significant in my opinion.
It's an interesting follow up to the OP, worth a read.
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Sounds like she and her team are gonna pay for trying to bring their Mission Impossible fantasies to life.Sorry Ms.deSousa but the days of just
randomly kidnapping people just because the government disagrees with them are over.Yes,Obama has expressed his "disappointment." but I think we can
read behind the lines these guys are on their own.
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