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The One Place on Earth Not Destroyed in '2012'




Topic started on 4-11-2009 @ 03:34 PM by ThaLoccster


The one place on earth not destroyed in '2012'


When I interviewed director Roland Emmerich a few months ago about his upcoming disaster flick "2012," the first question I asked was, "Why do you like killing the world?" His response: "It makes for a good story."

Over the past fifteen years, Emmerich has crafted some great tales about global doom, featuring some spectacular scenes of destruction. He had aliens zap the White House in "Independence Day," he let a massive lizard flatten New York City in "Godzilla," and he sent killer tornadoes through downtown Los Angeles in "The Day After Tomorrow."

For "2012," Emmerich set his sites on destroying the some biggest landmarks around the world, from Rome to Rio. But there's one place that Emmerich wanted to demolish but didn't: the Kaaba, the cube-shaped structure located in the center of Mecca. It's the focus of prayers and the site of the Hajj, the biggest, most important pilgrimage in Islam.

"Well, I wanted to do that, I have to admit," the filmmaker told scifiwire.com. "But my co-writer Harald [Kloser] said, 'I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie.' And he was right."



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:35 PM by ThaLoccster


I'm not sure if this was the place to post this but it seemed relevant.

The article itself seems relevant considering the recent threads involving Larry David, and the one today about the "transexual jesus".

Most of the comments in those threads echoes Emmerich's reasons for not destroying the Kaaba in this movie.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:53 PM by MR BOB


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2012 would be more appropriote. or bts in the movies section



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:40 PM by kommunist



He had aliens zap the White House in "Independence Day," he let a massive lizard flatten New York City in "Godzilla," and he sent killer tornadoes through downtown Los Angeles in "The Day After Tomorrow."



Judging by the other films these guys have made, this looks like a real winner.



[edit on 4-11-2009 by kommunist]



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:48 PM by harrytuttle


Wait, so the terrorists have won?

This director changed the way he made his movie based on the perceived threat of islamic terrorists?

Wow. Then the terrorists have won.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:49 PM by ThaLoccster


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This isn't about the movie per se.

But his choice to not destroy the Kaaba.

But, if you like disaster flicks I'm sure you'd like this.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:55 PM by Titen-Sxull


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I think Mount Ararat might be a better choice, after all several flood myths mark Ararat as the resting place of the legendary Ark. I think the movie is going to be great as far as a special effects film and really no one goes to an Emmerich for the story.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 05:45 PM by mazzroth


Originally posted by harrytuttle
Wait, so the terrorists have won?

This director changed the way he made his movie based on the perceived threat of islamic terrorists?

Wow. Then the terrorists have won.



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Oooga Booga !!!! oooooh the Terrorist's are gunna get ya!.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 06:39 PM by Replikant


So....every other religious monument can be destroyed, but when it comes to something related to Islam, it's a no-go?

Yeah, that's how it goes. The heck with Judaism or Christianity or Catholicism but ooooh, don't touch Islam, we can't DARE offend any muslims.

Stupid. If a worldwide catastrophe destroys most of the face of the earth, it's gonna destroy ALL kinds of people and monuments of ALL faiths.

That's what the trailer says, after all. 'No matter what you believe.'

It just looks like we're backing down to extremism.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 07:16 PM by 5 oClock


I was gonna post something about the (fatwa y) or whatever but now I'm tooo afraid to have an opinion.
Wait a minute isn't that what......never mind. Yes the've won. 4now

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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:39 PM by mblahnikluver


Hey to me it personal preference. If he really wanted to destroy it he would have..and hey it's a movie remember that... Also if it were my movie I would destroy every major city BUT Paris I'm tired of seeing the Eiffel Tower get destroyed

Shouldnt this be in BTS?



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:09 PM by ravhen


Things like this disgust me. We can "demolish" any other religious monument, but for some reason an islamic one is forbidden? What kind of power does islam hold over people that they're so afraid to touch anything related to it. I agree with whoever said in a previous reply "the terrorists have won".



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 04:16 AM by chiron613


Of course the terrorists won. The US PATRIOT act is evidence of that. The silly airport security checks, security checks to get into tall buildings, the calls when someone sees an abandoned package or a suspicious powder. The terrorists won a long time ago.

We've lost maybe 10,000 people to terror, since 9/11. We've lost millions to heart attacks, strokes, cancer, and other diseases that we can do much to prevent or detect early. Fast food has killed far more people since 9/11 than terrorists. Cigarettes, booze, all have killed more of us. But we're so afraid of terrorists that we ignore all those other threats and focus on just the one.

I don't blame this guy for not destroying the Qaaba. It's not like he's on a mission. He's making a movie; it's entertainment. Why should he risk his neck over something as dumb as that? If a fatwa is declared against him, then he can spend his life hoping to avoid someone coming up to him and slashing his throat. With 1.5 billion Muslims, there's going to be *someone* who'll be willing to do the deed for the honor of it.

You bet this guy is playing it safe. I'd do it, too. And so would most of the rest of us. Our governments can't provide us with protection against fanatics. No one can. There is no point to exposing yourself to danger over something that is unimportant.

If you really disagree strongly, then make a movie that depicts the destruction of the Qaaba. Make a photoshop of it and post it on a Web page. Actually I strongly recommend that you *not* do this, but if it's that important to you, do it yourself instead of criticizing someone else for not doing it.



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 06:53 AM by DarkElvis


The director didn't destroy it on film or the movie shows the Kaaba NOT being destroyed while everything else gets destroyed?

If they simply left it out, it's fine by me, but if the film actually shows the Kaaba not being destroyed while everything else does, then I agree, the terrorists have won.



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 07:51 AM by St Udio


I would suspect that the 2012 movie has some panoramic shots of the middle-East..... be it a tsunami or earthquake or meteor strike ->

and any of those destructive forces would find it impossible to not have caused some sort of damage to the Black Stone housed in the Qabba....
just because the director chose not to show all the destructions around the planet, does not mean the destruction did not occur.

Infer the pilgrimage Shrine as another casualty by the forces of nature
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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:01 AM by masqua


My take on why the site was not destroyed in the movie is a simple one... survival instinct. I don't blame Kloser and Emmerich for not only protecting tyhemselves, but basically everyone involved in the making of the movie.

Dealing with the radical elements who dole out Fatwas like candy on Halloween can be deadly. It's like the Inquisition all over again, just from a different religion this time.

Were I to be the one to make this movie, I would move to protect every writer, actor and CGI specialist listed in the credits. The threat of death is not worth the paycheck.

I don't like it either, but understand why it was left out.



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:17 AM by Hayley777


i think this film is absolutley rediculous-it really upset me when i saw it advertised...another amazing attempt at gloryfying the fear for 2012...this could go either way...people will laugh at the concept of 'something' happening as its portrayed in the film or will be terrified that the world is going to end...you will experience what you percieve to happen in your own world-this really does not help us. nice one idiot...



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:23 AM by Seeker Mom


I had planned on seeing this movie, and that's a big thing for me considering I don't care to go to the theater. After learning this I think I'll pass.



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 01:18 PM by ModernAcademia


The man who saw tomorrow
movie about nostradamus
in it statue or liberty got destroyed
americans got angry
movie got banned
death threats occured

moving on...
they should make a movie where all religions are destroyed!

bye



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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 03:42 AM by Hayley777


i agree...religion is the cause of all war, its used for fear and division-we are all one-theres no need to worship anything only yourself.



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