Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
While they don't control every aspect of business, the government exerts far more power than they should and hence, like all large institutions are
subject to corruption. Try to understand this. Big government is not more inherently good or evil for that matter than big corporations. However
power is corrupting and the more power concentrated in fewer hands, the more dangerous it becomes.
Big government is not the real issue my friend. The issue is we have BOUGHT GOVERNMENTS just like you go the butcher store to buy meat or to the fish
market to buy fish. America, canada, mexico, european nations, african nations, south american nations...all nations with few exceptions are BOUGHT
OUT by the elite families of europe which may even have a reptillian connection.
In theory we need neither a "big government" nor a "small government". We need it big enough to be able to govern society in an effective manner
without wasting tax payer money in an overkill scheme.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Government controlled education, government controlled healthcare, the government tells you what to watch on TV, tells you what behavior is
acceptable, tells you how to think (e.g. worship nature, worship government, despise christianity, accept the dilution and diminution of your
culture, accept your role as a wage slave etc. etc.)
No that is only true with communism. If you go canada or western europe you will see people live much better than the average american because they
are able to balance work with family fun a whole lot easier. There is less pressure to perform, particulary if you work in the government sector.
I have worked for private firms many times and I can tell you your boss can be the biggest prick you will ever meet. Your five minutes late, you
didn't talk to the customer right, brake time is only 20 minutes(not 40 minutes), we need to cut down on staff because the economy is lousy...am I
talking a foreign language to you?
Believe it or not the stock market is one of the biggest sins toward fellow man ever committed. People invest in the stock market to make money, not
to brake even or take a loss. This in turn puts extraordinary pressure on management and staff to perform at the highest level. We don't need this
kind of "progress" imo. I think it is a sin to work 50 hours to make the shareholders(or private entrepeneur) wealthy while I only get a flat wage
and then have the USA corporate government and state corporate government tax me on those meager wages.
Whats the minimum wage...$6 or $7 an hour IS LOUSY and I don't care if your a high school drop-out, mentally challenged individual or just
"unmotivated". EVERYONE deserves a basic amount of respect but ultra-capitalism is designed to function only if your a great slave. And yes you
are a slave TO MANY PEOPLE regardless how high you think you are.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
You have no idea to the extent that your health care options have been limited because of government control. It's fortunate you've never had any
chronic or serious illnesses. America's health care industry is already completely controlled and compromised by the FDA. The system is designed
to profit big pharma and your socialist paradises are no different.
And big pharma does'nt make a profit? Are they the salvation army?
It is true that in reality we don't have TRUE socialism ANYWHERE! It never really existed in the first place! We only had mild capitalism in
europe, ultra-capitalism in the USA and communism in russia;don't be fooled with "United Socialist States of Russia" because it was only a
euthanism to deceive people. Conversly, Hitler's "NATIONAL socialism" was just an ultra-right wing fascist government.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
The socialist EU elitist government is essentially an unelected bureaucracy. The ills of socialism are very great. Yes capitalism is flawed, but
socialism is pure evil power concentrated in the hands of the corrupt.
Government is not inheritantly corrupt. It only becomes corrupt when people are ignorant or apathetic with social issues that are important to
everyone. Most people are too busy trying to make ends meet and yes many are living beyond their means and thus have to work many hours overtime just
to stay afloat.
Government becomes really corrupt when rich, powerful people manage to somehow infiltrate and more-or-less force their will on our elected
representatives. If mr. rockefeller approached you, as senator of alabama, with $2 million and told you to do something highely unethical would you
accept? I probably would, because I know everyone else would as well, so why should I be a sucker?! This is the problem with capitalism and to a
lesser extent with socialism and communism, when corporations and people GET TO BIG TO FAIL.
My beaf with capitalism is that it provides the unethical foundation for cunning people to get to the top and exploit the less fortunate. With REAL
socialism there are restraints which cut down on motivation and keeps everyone in check.
Go ahead and bash me now but don't let religion get in the way. You can be a great christian and a humanist at the same time because the two are not
opposites...in fact to be a great christian YOU SHOULD BE A HUMANIST FIRST, nevermind the "I am going to use religion as a tool to exloit others"
mentality". Christ would be appalled at such behavior despite the fact that humans are very imperfect creatures to begin with.
End of rant
I hope you learned somethng from my lecture...
To be frank with you, even communism is starting
to look better and more fair than your so-called capitalism. At least people didn't starve, they had a guaranteed roof over their heads, guaranted
job, guaranted education, guaranted vacation, guaranted funeral, etc. 
