I WILL bash on Obama, every chance I can get.

Well, he's a politician. Not a savior. Don't be fooled.

Line 2 for prosperity. Or Something.

reply to post by Common Good


So basically you hate president obama, not because he is black or even because he is a democrat, but because he wants to make america like europe....whatever the # that is supposed to mean?

From what I can see, president obama has not started any wars, in his very short tenure mind you, yet you still hate him. Hmmm I am so perplexed! Yes he gave away 1 trillion dollars to the corrupt banksters but did he really have any choice? President bush, a few months earlier gave away $700 billion to the same people and if you remember correctly it was republican presidential candidate mccain who said almost word for word "saving the economy is so important that I am going to tell president bush to simply bypass congress so we can get the money out ASAP!"

Republicans and independents(I have no idea what an independent really is as they never qualify their position on anything rather they bitch on and on about how everyone is always wrong and they are always right:lol always forget who caused the problems in the first place, who cheated their way to a win in 2001, who allowed 9-11 to happen despite all the warnings from the cia and fbi, who passed the treasonous department of homeland security and patriot act so that anyone complaining becomes a terror suspect and sent to guantanamo cuba(its now closed thanks to obama "the traitor"), who gave banks the green light to do as they please and threaten total economic war if they don't get their spoiled way, etc

Should I continue my verbal barrage? Why not! Yes the democrats are not gods angel by any means of the imagination and I am very annoyed that they did not impeach bush after 4-5 years of literaly raping america to death, but trust me there young fellow, obama and the democrats sure make bush look like the devil he was and yeah his father was much, much worse! In fact people say he was the head of the cia and one of the biggest drug dealers of all time. He invaded panama to get rid of president noriega, who was even placed there by the cia's blessings, yet when he decided to nationalise the panama canal, "president bush" got so angry he started fabricating tales of "noriega the drug dealer"

How about how bush senior, when he was working for the cia, was supplying weapons to both iraq and iran so they could mutually destroy each other, yet the media was playing it as though iran was the enemy. Does general oliver north ring any bells? Right that was "a long time ago". Or how america was supplying weapons to the taliban so they could defeat russia? Yet the taliban and as an extension al-queda, was never in the fbi's most wanted list even after the first attacks on the wtc back in the mid 90's. Not suspicious enough for you?

Keep blaming the democrats all you want because it is you who is making a fool of yourself, not me. I just had to refresh your short memory and give you a run down of why I think you are wrong.

I agree with you only more so.
I agree with you only more so because I voted for him.
Dont' call me a racist. I would not have voted for him if I was a racist.
A lot of people voted for him because they believed that he would take back the country, would honor the Constitution. Would be kind to our older people. Would oppose the powers that be (Rockefellers & neocons) and put the country back on track.
All these people were not racists. They were just lied to. He is clearly in the pocket of the big bankers and is looting the country on their behalf. As if it weren't enough to impoverish America, they want to reduce us to a slave labor force and put gizmos into our bodies to control us to work harder. Obama is helping the banks, after they looted the treasury, to raise interest rates and find excuses for taxes so every American will be relieved of their property and become the property of the state, ie Rockefellers.
Have you researched Jonestown. It was nothing but a government run concentration camp to find ways to torture and bully people. When they were done they made an excuse to murder their inmates, letting the bodies bloat and preventing autopsies to keep the public from knowing that they were full of drugs. And the people didn't just lie down and die either, they revolted and ran into the jungle where CIA hit men were waiting to kill them and drag them back and pose their bodies. Why did the govt finance all this. What were they hoping to learn? Let's hope we don't find out.
These are the people Obama works for. What kind of hope do we expect from him.
The information for a lot of things wasn't available a few years ago, but it is now. It is time for Americans to do their homework and look into what their government has been up to for so long.

I oppose Obama more than you do because you only think he has messed up the country, you don't even suspect what damage he is doing and intends to do to you and yours


I edited this to take out the part where I say I hate Obama and put in the word oppose, so I don't get arrested for a "hate" crime. I am a peaceful person. I am very much opposed to Obama. I am very much opposed to our criminal violent murderous excuse for a government and hope people wake up before we get murdered by them.You will say Oh, this is too extreme for me, she must be a lunatic. Thanks,I'll take that but you will see, if people don't stop him soon that I am right.

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I can definately support commongoods disdain for Obama.
But, what I think we all need to realize is that he is placed there , in that position to create this strife amongst the population.

Follow the money behind Obama through the banksters (banking gangsters) and the true backers of our banking backed political system will be revealed.

Research McCain's support for AIPAC. They are all bought and paid for by the Zionists.

Remember, during the 2008 election I pointed out how practically ALL of the candidates, whether Democrat or Republican were all members of the Council on Foreign Relations. There is the root of your money control of all of our presidential candidates. Also as to why Ron Paul was shunned.

reply to post by Common Good

He reminds me of a cheap used car lot salesman who stalks on the less fortunate in order to make them feel happy for a day in a "new" old car. He shines it up nice, he puts new oil in it, maybe a new set of tires and even a new cup holder so you dont spill your drink while taking a test drive. Thats when the people get caught, hook-line-sinker.

The same can be said about ANY politician. He said what he had to say in order to get elected.

He is an embarrassment to the flag, he thinks Americans are stupid, and he is trying to turn America into something it isnt, Europe.

Americans ARE stupid and we are FAR from becoming something like Europe, seeing how it's made up of countries rather than states.

The way that the left thought about Bush, I feel the same towards Obama(for a fair comparison).

I agree with that.

I am a Hip Hop producer, so trust me, I have had this conversation with Many of the black community, and the majority of those that I have talked to, feel the same way.

Ahh, so futher PROOF that black folks don't blindingly follow Obama. There are alot...ALOT of white folks on this forum that think black people follow Obama cuz he's black (THAT is what he identifies himself as, so let that discussion drop). I honestly got tired of telling people that all black people don't support what Obama is doing, but they instead would rather believe their own opinion.

I feel that he is bad for our country,not only economically and militarily, but also because he is tearing the people of this nation apart more and more everyday. I have been seeing a lot of diversity of lately, and it is really sickening to me. To me, it feels as if he has devided this country more so than he has brought it together.

Scared of diversity huh? And i only thought it was the old'skool republicans afraid of change. The only division i've seen are along racial lines, but that's only when race is brought up. And to me, he has brought this country together better than any other presidential candidate and president.

Its funny, cause I have always thought that by electing a "black" man, that it might have been a chance to bring unity to our people, but IMO, it hasnt(not in my eyes).

That's because you got people on both sides that look at ethnicity first and start judging him from that.

me and my black friends hate obama too we call him a walking mouth because he has all these nice things to say about helping America but his words never come true don't trust this dumb butt we have for a president u no i could care less what skin color obama is he could be blue green red or white i still would hate him as much as i did bush

PS. im getting tired of voting for turd sandwich's and douche bags

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reply to post by Common Good


Did you watch the video? He said that the fundamentals of truth of the US has been lost, which is 100% dead on IMO. That is not bashing it's breaking it down.

When you think he is "bashing" American people, i think he is stating truth and if your not prepared the truth can be a hard thing to swallow.

As for yadda333 i agree with everything you said. This country is built on diversity, not just one.

[edit on 5-11-2009 by cenpuppie]

Originally posted by nixie_nox
So you have publicly admitted that you can't look at thing unbiasedly and with a critical eye and think for yourself because of some pre conceived notions about a president who is not with your party.

I will remember to just skim over your posts from now on.

perhaps he, like many other already have looked at it with a critical and unbiased eye and this is the results they have arrived at. You see, not everyone drank teh kool-aid.

Perhaps, it is the ones who didn't go in with a preconceived notion, like you have, are the ones walking away with a bad taste in their mouth.

Originally posted by Common Good
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apparantly you do, you took the time to be obamas protector.
get off the squirells nuts already.
Obama listens? hahaahahahaha
RIIIIIIGHT.

you come across as a sore loser. So, you deserve to be addressed and possibly even corrected.

Although, you likely are unable to deal with constructive criticism and certainly aren't able to deal with reality.

Have you ever been to Europe? Why do you think Europe is bad?
Why do you think that a guy who handed 100's of billions of dollars to wall street and insurance agencies is a socialist?

Nothing personal, but your views are teeming with ignorance and are framing you as someone who is mentally deficient which I don't think you are.

You just haven't seen much of the world by the looks of things, get overly defensive about your vague and ambiguous political position and are probably more prone to flip flopping than any politician ever has been because if there is one thing you make brilliantly clear, it's that you haven't really thought this out much and are just being one more lazy minded emotional reactionary.

YOu are quite typical of the overtly vocal minority of people who claim they are this or that or try to frame themselves in a way that they think others will see them as sane and blameless and with a sound position.

well sir, I declare you are not presenting much at all.

what's your solution? elect ron paul? lol because that would be a wonderful joke on america to elect that guy. ahahaha.

reply to post by seagull


Basically! The White House plays along with Congress to play us, the people. Save your impartiality for the elected fools in Congress that are suppose to look out for us, that is there job, that's what they do.

Instead they are looking out for themselves and their constituents. I am so reminded of Enemy of the State with Will Smith.

reply to post by Common Good

A president is someone you are supposed to look up to, not be ashamed of, and thats what I am, ashamed

Sorry chief, but the presidential seat has been bought and sold by FDR when the FED came into existence. So since then, everything that has occurred has been carefully choreographed so when the next president arrive, he/she can pick up where the other left off.

Originally posted by djusdjus
what's your solution? elect ron paul? lol because that would be a wonderful joke on america to elect that guy. ahahaha.

Ron Paul speaks a few half-truths and people run behind him like he is the messiah or something. Yes he his more brave then your typical republican but doesn't tell me much because their party is more corrupt than my windows xp operating system.

David Kucinoch(spelling correct?) is/was just as vocal, yet people hardly ever mention him just because he is a democrat! With so many obama haters I am starting to think ATS is some kind of nazi website...I mean seriously their arguments make zero sense and are full of hate!

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reply to post by Frith


quote from frith:

"Obama already has a massive multi-million dollar group of all-star political pundits and other miscellaneous media attackers that go for his jugular on a daily basis. There was no such media beast out for Bush during his entire tenure in office. Sure Bush had his detractors. Mostly on the internet, but there weren't giant media conglomerates and angry millionaires ranting about him publicly all day long like the Obama administration has endured."


let me get one thing straight from the get go. I'm no Bush#2 fan at all. He screwed things up for Americans very badly, and Obama is finishing the job.

That being said, you have got to be kidding with your statement that there was no media beast out for Bush? are you joking?? The msm were on his butt 24/7, in a relentless manner that continues to this day, as he gets blamed for all the problems that face Obama, from Obama's own hands. Give me a break. You must never watch the MSM or read the NY Times, or any number of MSM media outlets. They never let up on Bush#2. The most of the media today, such as NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, and others, have given Obama a pass on his continual retelling of a story, each day different, over and over. They have an obvious blind love of him. It's sickening to watch as they let him of the hook from any difficult questions time after time. What ajoke they are, and what a joke he is.

I can only hope the people who voted for him are getting the change they wanted. I'd like to remind everyone again, one of Obama's biggest promises he made over and over, that we all knew was a lie from day one. ---Nobody making under $250,000 a year would see their taxes go up. What a crock of BS. How about the unemployment not going over 8.5 % if we have the stimulus pass. His promises are a joke, just like him.
So all you Obama worshippers just keep supporting him as you make your way in line to the poor house, and try to figure out how you will pay your bills with no job.

Originally posted by m khan
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I agree with you only more so because I voted for him.
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I edited this to take out the part where I say I hate Obama and put in the word oppose, so I don't get arrested for a "hate" crime.

Whoa, what we are witnessing here folks is a a rosie relationship quickly going sour.

What I find interesting is how Obama's popularity rating can very easily be compared to a normal relationship.
However, in this case, the stages of the romatic relationship got out of sync and went straight from the initial giddy stage (where your whole world revolves around the person who can never do anything wrong and is always seen through rose colored glasses) to the marriage stage.

Well now we are in the eye opener stage, the honeymoon is over, people have buyers remorse and are now silently thinking of divorce.

I can understand, I felt the exact same way about Bush. Still do. I'm not at that point with Obama, but I most certainly don't like him either.

Originally posted by mrpotatohead
let me get one thing straight from the get go. I'm no Bush#2 fan at all. He screwed things up for Americans very badly, and Obama is finishing the job.

Allow me to have serious doubts if obama is "finishing the job"! It would help everyone quite a bit if you were specific on "job".

Originally posted by mrpotatohead
That being said, you have got to be kidding with your statement that there was no media beast out for Bush? are you joking?? The msm were on his butt 24/7, in a relentless manner that continues to this day, as he gets blamed for all the problems that face Obama, from Obama's own hands. Give me a break. You must never watch the MSM or read the NY Times, or any number of MSM media outlets. They never let up on Bush#2. The most of the media today, such as NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, and others, have given Obama a pass on his continual retelling of a story, each day different, over and over. They have an obvious blind love of him. It's sickening to watch as they let him of the hook from any difficult questions time after time. What ajoke they are, and what a joke he is.

I don't think anyone loves obama! They simply don't hate him as they hated bush because obama has not given anyone the opportunity to hate him. He has not made A TON OF INTENTIONAL MISTAKES as has bush jr and bush sr. Sure he made promises he couldn't keep but I don't think he really knew exactly how bad the economy was UNTIL HE GOT INTO OFFICE!

I am not trying to make up excuses for him....I am simply stating my opinion(s) as I see things. If you want to be critical of someone you should at least wait till the 4 years are over so you can make an accurate assessment.

Well I think this thread was just made to get people riled up and start arguments. If you dont like the way he is running things that much, maybe instead of making a thread about it, you should go and do something about it. The problem with some people these days is that instead of doing all that they can about something they feel strongly about, they just sit around and cry about it.

So the thing is, you dont like how Obama is moving so slowly with getting things done and/or isnt getting anything done. And your mad that he's bashes on America. Trust me, alot of people feel the same way. With the way the world is and the economy, everyone is at a point where they're really mad and thats perfectly acceptable. But I was tought if you dont like something, change it. And if you cant change it, you have to change the way you think about.

The point is, were all grown ups here. And we should be able to have a discussion without adding attitude into the mix. And I know we can. Lets give it a try.

Thousands Rally to Protest Health Care Bill
www.msnbc.msn.com...

Tea Partiers Hit Capitol Hill
www.politico.com...

Hmmm... Obama is about to be impeached. Once we throw the bums out in 2010, impeachment is must likely inevitable.

Or, we go to war.

America could use a good kick in the pants anyway.

It's become myopic in it's world view and vain in it's view of itself.

It is filled with people who adamantly believe it's the greatest country on earth. lol, it's not. It is a living hell compared to many places, rife with crime, racial problems, corrupt government and an out of control military that seems to be the real control center for the whole thing.

I do believe that there has not been a fairly elected president since Eisenhower left office. Well, ok Kennedy, but look what happened to him. LBJ and up have all been more or less put into that office.

If Obama slashed military spending, he'd get the Kennedy treatment as well.

Clinton was gonna cut funding to the military too, but then whoops! Osama bin Laden started hitting embassies and that was called off. How convenient. Don't forget to bomb the aspirin factory while you're at it Bill!

America is afraid to revolt. What would happen to their happy meals, mall warts and brain draining television if they did that?

You're all wearing french fry handcuffs. You think you're a laugh, but you're really a cry. You think you're strong, but you are weaker than any nation.

It's sad to watch really. But oh well, you can't help people who won't help themselves. Obama is your pacifier, now suck it america.

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Thousands Rally to Protest Health Care Bill
www.msnbc.msn.com...

Tea Partiers Hit Capitol Hill
www.politico.com...

Hmmm... Obama is about to be impeached. Once we throw the bums out in 2010, impeachment is must likely inevitable.
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You guys are really funny; Thousands Rally to Protest Health Care Bill
Forget that MILLIONS support it!

Tea Partiers Hit Capitol Hill
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Look up who has formed the tea baggers. Dick Army & the Republican party. It's not a "grass roots" movement but a manufactured protest against anything Obama. You guys are the Rubes!hahaha

GWB should have been impeached! Now Cheney/Rove/Bush/ Gonzales etc are going to trial over torture/CIA leaking/attorney General firings.
It's like an alternate reality, 55% support Obama so stick it! After Health Care is passed & it works not another Republican will win again. The Rebubs know how to win elections(sometimes) they just can't govern.
Not all Republicans are racists but most racists are republican!!!
Think on that for awhile.