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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:20 AM by conspiracyrus
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great not even ats fact checks before making its members look like nuts... the patent application states that a h1n1 can be stripped of amino acids so
that it reproduces much more slowly... as to the part about how they are making a "chimera virus" actually they were saying by vaccinating PIGS
against one type of influenza they could prevent the creation of said chimera virus...
shame on you
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:26 AM by AR154
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I think if someone wanted to make a killer virus and not get caught afterwards, they would not patent it? I doubt they'd care if someone else went
out and copied their virus...infact, that'd be good for them...
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:27 AM by randyvs
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Nice guy huh. like we need anymore confirmation and then this rolls in
I believe enough in there arogance to not put this patent by them.
What you think the patent No. is fake?
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:33 AM by marg6043
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While all the news are fantastic, I will have to concentrate on the swine flu part of it, I have been following this pandemic and its historical time
line very closely, I still stand with my opinion base of a lot of facts that is nothing but a hoax all in the name of profits and greed.
Where is the independent media that used to keep the people up to day to corruption has gone. Now people that tells the truth about what is going on
are considered terrorist and conspiracy crazy people.
Darn pigs they value nothing but money they careless about human life and our own government protect this crocks.
Now don't get me wrong, the new world government is another sore spot on my side, and to think that people as so blind not to understand what
all this means to the sovereignty of nations
including ours.
But lets keep sitting on our big fat butts and let other rules our lives.
About spending,
Trust me is not such thing as stop spending money because the powers behind the government are all for it and as long as this goes on the burden of
the debt will fall on our unborn.
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:35 AM by randyvs
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While all the news are fantastic, I will have to concentrate on the swine flu part of it, I have been following this pandemic and its historical time
line very closely, I still stand with my opinion base of a lot of facts that is nothing but a hoax all in the name of profits and greed.
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Ok so what do the Guide stones mean to you?
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:40 AM by marg6043
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:47 AM by conspiracyrus
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The patent is for a vaccine for pigs... the thread they got their "news" from, is where I told everyone that this is not that big a deal and the OP
even apologized and said he was wrong
just imagine if the mainstream media gets a hold of this ... they are going to laugh at us and for good reason...
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:52 AM by marg6043
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Yes you are right but that doesn't take into account that Baxter inc, filed for a patent for the swine flu in 2007,
www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk...
This was file in 2008 and made public in 2009.
Also even Obama invested in vaccines back in 2005 when he was just a Senator I guess he knew how good things were going to be.
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:54 AM by moocowman
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Originally posted by conspiracyrus
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The patent is for a vaccine for pigs... the thread they got their "news" from, is where I told everyone that this is not that big a deal and the OP
even apologized and said he was wrong
Why was the thread U2Ud to me as a big news story ? I assumed the thread title and the source of the U2U to imply the story was factual !!
What the hell is going on here ?
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:55 AM by conspiracyrus
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that isnt a patent for swine flu its a patent on procuring , preserving, and manufacturing of an anti-gen even tho h1n1 is mentioned there are plenty
more viruses listed on there... and h1n1 isnt new its bee around for a while so... its really just a patent for creating viable vaccines
oh yeah btw i work for a patent attorney we had a field day with these patent applications
just to be clear i like the ats news... but more effort needs to be put into it... or else it will blow up in our face
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 09:58 AM by RoyalCanadian
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so what exactly is the point of a world health orginization?
all they do is manufacture diseases and distribute them to the public so big pharmacy can make a quick buck off our sudden deaths from the untested
vaccine.
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:00 AM by marg6043
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Sorry but the story tells very clear that it was a patent for Swine flu H1N1 so perhaps the rest is to misinform the public about the deception.
But the story is clear.
Head of Virology at Baxter’s Austrian subsidiary Otfried Kistner was part of the Austrian-based team that applied for the patent for the H1N1
Swine Flu on August 28, 2007.
ahrcanum.wordpress.com...
I believe this bigger than anyone here can even phantom
It doesn't say one particular pig flu it said swine flu.
I smell damage control propaganda here to cover the truth
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:05 AM by conspiracyrus
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um your source looks like a blog ... why dont you actually read the patent ... it doesnt necesssarily say its FOR h1n1 it says its for MANY virus's
including deng fever...
a snippet from your source
“In particular preferred embodiments the composition or
vaccine comprises more than one antigen…..such as
influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one
or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2,
H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1,
H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7,
H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3,
H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2,
H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.”
this is some of the exact language from the patent
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:06 AM by marg6043
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:09 AM by conspiracyrus
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i know ... i just edited my post... that patent has very little to do with swine flue and alot to do with antigens... as well your running under the
assumption that h1n1 began last year... when h1n1 has been around for at least 30 years
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:14 AM by randyvs
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just imagine if the mainstream media gets a hold of this ... they are going to laugh at us and for good reason...
yikes! this no good. Shouldn't the mods do their thing then?
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:15 AM by marg6043
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The patent itself said very clear that is for immunization of humans why they will be doing a patent to create a vaccine if the vaccine
was not also to be administered to human.
The deception here that can not be ignore is that this was also taking into consideration the immunization of "humans".
If they filed for this in 2007 it was very clear that Baxter was into manipulation of viruses specially the 1918 Spanish flu, the pig flu and the bird
flu.
Then why filing a patent to for the H1N1 as one of the main viruses? even before it became a pandemic by the calls of the HWO, and then the patent
very clear said human testing and immunization.
Sorry to bring this but is very deceptive and very dirty whatever is been going on.
I don't think that Baxter was producing a vaccine to immunized bird or pigs alone.
It was all for human immunization under the guise of other viruses probably the same viruses that they were manipulating and experimenting with.
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:16 AM by VitalOverdose
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Good work guys, that was a much more balanced report than the last one. Johnny did a better job of maintaining a consistent pace throughout the
report.
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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:20 AM by conspiracyrus
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Yes the 2007 poatent is ABOUT vaccines for humans but for a VARIETY of different diseases
The 2005 application is about pigs
once again a quote from your source, which happens to be exact language from the application
“In particular preferred embodiments the composition or
vaccine comprises more than one antigen…..such as
influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one
or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2,
H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1,
H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7,
H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3,
H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2,
H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.”
as you can see here this isnt like they are patenting the vaccine itself they are pattenting a method of which to create a vaccine that can be used
for ... "insert virus here"
and once again you fail to take into account that h1n1 has been around for years ... they even believe its related to the 1918 flu virus....
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