VERY Odd Warren Buffet BUYS entire railway company... FEMA Trains?, page 1
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Topic started on 4-11-2009 @ 02:11 AM by LeaderOfProgress
Buffett's firm to buy Burlington Northern

I am not one to buy into some of the conspiracies that come to this site. Every once in a while something odd happens that makes you reconsider and give more thought to some of those conspiracies.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway said Tuesday it will buy railroad operator Burlington Northern Santa Fe for $44 billion.

Berkshire (BRKA, Fortune 500), which already has major stake in Burlington Northern, said it would acquire the remaining 77.4% of the company in a cash-and-stock offer worth $100 per share.

Widely regarded as both one of the world's richest men and the investment community's more brilliant minds, Buffett called his firm's investment an "all-in wager on the economic future of the United States."

"Our country's future prosperity depends on its having an efficient and well-maintained rail system," Buffett said in a statement.


Everyone knows of the whole "FEMA trains" and the idea that the railways would be used to transport people. Well not that I buy into all of that but the purchase of an entire railway company by a KNOWN Elite definately raises some eyebrows.

Obviously he sees a HUGE profitability in the rail system. What could be so profitable about the railway system that this man would put an "all in" bet on it, unless it is about to get used more than ever? Not to mention that it shows that the stock market is not going to be profitable enough for him to invest in it as well.

Hmm... That makes two different points about this story that should at least warrant more investigation as to the why's of this busness decision.

Had to break out the tinfoil hat for this one. Tell me what you all think.

[edit on 4-11-2009 by LeaderOfProgress]


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:16 AM by Gmurray86
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I am not really a big believer of the FEMA camps either, but this does seem a little odd. If the stock market did crash, what would be getting shipped by rail?



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:27 AM by LeaderOfProgress
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That is one possibility and granted it is one based off of "Occams Razor" but, this just seems really oddly timed and out of place to what should be happening in an economy that is supposed to be improving. I can think of several possibilities as to why, in a conventional thought process, that he would make this investment, but this is not a conventional site thus making this look odd when you have more insight to things than people who just follow conventional thoughts.


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:49 AM by On the Edge
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But remember,Obama's Cap-n-Trade is going to bankrupt the coal industry!


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:53 AM by charlyv
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Then this could be a power play by someone who is most certainly in the power elite.


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:53 AM by LeaderOfProgress
Originally posted by On the Edge
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But remember,Obama's Cap-n-Trade is going to bankrupt the coal industry!


Spot ON..!! See there is something odd about this. I totally forgot about the whole bankrupting the coal industry campaign promise.



reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:26 AM by LeaderOfProgress
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What do you mean by a power play? Just needing a little clarification on what you are saying.


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:27 AM by On the Edge
www.hubpages.com... HR-645

What other use could the government have for these if not something wicked? They sure aren't using them to ease the overctowding in prisons,and "undocumented workers" sure aren't a threat. Remember who the Department of Homeland Security says are the terrorists nowadays? Patriotic Americans,Pro-Lifers,those who Home-school,....

On another thread,someone made the connection between IBM and this flu situation. I posted a comment about IBM and the holocaust.

ibmandtheholocaust.com...

(And you see why I am "On the Edge"!)


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:58 AM by LeaderOfProgress
Originally posted by gazerstar


Buffett has said he realized a few years late that railroads were an appealing investment. As diesel prices rise, shipping by rail instead of truck becomes more attractive, and it would be extremely difficult for a competitor to build a new railroad.


www.kansascity.com...


US trains run off of diesel. They use diesel generators to make the electricity to drive the wheels. How does an argument that the rising price of diesel makes trains more appealing when the price of operating a train is rising along side the price of operating a big rig?


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:09 AM by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
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this is how they save on fuel
A single train can carry the load of more than 280 trucks. Trains can move a ton of freight 423 miles on a single gallon of fuel.


www.cumberlink.com...


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:14 AM by LeaderOfProgress
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With that being said it still does not explain the oddities of this transaction. If saving money on fuel was an issue then it would have been more so one last july. Why buy now when fuel prices have fallen well and stabilized?



reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:17 AM by UKWO1Phot
This may give you an idea on why rail is becoming the "In Thing"

Stobart Rail

One of the UK's biggest hauliers has just moved alot of their cargo onto refrigerated train carriages through Europe.


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 04:24 AM by LeaderOfProgress
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That may be part of the story as well but it still does not explain the whole why by now almost 4 years later? It is the timing that keeps the issue interesting. A wise investor such as him would have bought the company when the company was struggling due to high fuel costs. Now the rails are strugling due to a lessened demand for shipped goods. Look at our economy. It still doesn't add up.


reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 06:12 AM by HappilyEverAfter
www.bnsf.com...
www.bnsf.com...

The transportation of needed goods over rail as opposed to semi-truck, seems to benefit itself in scenarios such as: decrease of fuel access, decrease in highway access, restriction of movement, implementation of carbon tax and credits, implementation of fuel taxes and cap charges,
narrowed government useage and profit for lease.
Hauling bodies? eh maybe. Getting "around" shipping obstacles seems more likely.

add-plus what do you ship when the bodies run out?
the system "needs" consumers, youre gonna live till ya die.

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